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**Jeff Buchanan** · November 20, 2016, 06:33 PM

Well, maybe not bad at all.

Look, M's offense is probably a good deal better when Speight is good Speight not Iowa Speight. But we're not going to see if bad Speight or good Speight plays v osu. It's O'Korn. So, deal with that.

The Game is going to be about match-ups. My view is that osu has an advantage in most places except run defense. M may be able to exploit that. I think the chances of doing that are a lot greater if JOK can manage to show he's a down field passing threat - he's got the receivers to be that. If he can make a couple throws early, back the Ss out a bit, good for him. Pretty sure the play calling cabal will try to do that.

If they do and it succeeds even a little, we're going to see a Deveon Smith/Chris Evans extravaganza with a bit of Ty Isaac and Karan Higdon thrown in. I actually like M's run offense better than I like osu's but that's just me. Obviously, jtb adds another dimension to osu's ground game but I feel OK, just OK, mind you, about the ability of Brown and his players to deal with him after they dealt with the kitchen sink that Kevin Wilson and his offensive play callers put out there.

It would really help Brown and his coaching staff if Harbaugh and the offensive cabal were able to put O'Korn in a position to make some throws. That may not happen. If it doesn't and jtb is his usual self as a passer, producing a typical November B10 slug fest on the ground, passing be damned because both coaches don't rust their QBs, I like M's chances if that is what it turns out to be. It's the one area where Jimmys and Joes match up best for M.

**Jeff Buchanan** · November 20, 2016, 06:40 PM

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**Jeff Buchanan** · November 20, 2016, 06:43 PM

Oh, BTW .......

Fuck osu.

**iam416** · November 20, 2016, 07:42 PM

IMO, McCray is slow. Or he doesn't play fast. If he's tasked with stopping Samuel, then I'll revise my prediction.

**Cody_Russell** · November 20, 2016, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by iam416 View Post

IMO, McCray is slow. Or he doesn't play fast. If he's tasked with stopping Samuel, then I'll revise my prediction.

I imagine McCray will be.
It will probably cost M in a couple key moments.

M will call a blitz and put McCray 1 vs 1 on Samuel. JT will toss it out to Samuel and he will go for 20.

**Tslisher** · November 20, 2016, 08:54 PM

Heart:
Michigan's been planning for this all along. Speight will play and hit some long downfield bombs to loosen up the run game. Butt comes up big in the short passing game. The Pepcat formation has been all a set up for the entire season and peppers hands off/throws a pass that goes for a touchdown as every single osu player keys on him. Michigan 24 - OSU 10.

Head: Speight is hurt and goes out after a sack. O'Korn can't keep up a passing threat and OSU crowds the box. OSU runs the ball with both QB runs and running backs. M can't do enough on defense to stop them repeatedly and the offense sputters with O'Korn. Michigan 10 - OSU 24.

Going with the HEART - F*** OSU!

**hack** · November 20, 2016, 09:25 PM

If we get Speight we're unlikely to get the good Speight. On-the-road Speight plus injured/ginger Speight. OL would have to keep him very, very clean.

I don't know what to think about several of the special packages. McDoom has been disappeared, to the extent that maybe there's a discipline problem? I would have thought that Peppers would have thrown out of Pepcat by now. I'd rather have established that threat already rather than unleash it with all the marbles on the line and have the guy throwing his first forward pass of his career. Better to just have the threat of the throw established by now, so the defenders have to think a sec.

Overall, I just don't know. Just don't know. Doesn't look good.

**Detroit Dan** · November 20, 2016, 09:42 PM

I'm with Tslisher on the head-heart thing. There's no way I'm picking against Michigan -- FACTS BE DAMNED (of course, that's the Spartans' line this year, with the 3-8 team boasting a pair of moral victories with very gutsy performances beyond the FACTS).

May the best team win, and officials be wise.

**BlueInCostaRica** · November 20, 2016, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by Detroit Dan View Post

May the best team win, and officials be wise.

Unfortunately, the best team is probably going to win.

**Jeff Buchanan** · November 21, 2016, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by iam416 View Post

IMO, McCray is slow. Or he doesn't play fast. If he's tasked with stopping Samuel, then I'll revise my prediction.

Correct ........

samuel has to get through the wash created by the aggressive and penetrating play of M's DL first before he gets to confront the slowness of McCray in particular.

Just a little hesitation or disruption for samuel sprinting to the edge in that wash of bodies opens him up to back side pursuit from the likes of Wormly, Taco or Gary.

This isn't M's 2015 defense that got absolutely crushed on the edge. It isn't the NFL ready OL that osu put on the filed last year either.

**Jeff Buchanan** · November 21, 2016, 07:30 AM

I absolutely love BronxBlue's writing style when he does his Best and Worst piece at mgoblog. Here's what he had to say about The Game. It's a good read regaring the M/IU game.

Two weeks ago, I thought UM was the moderate favorite. With O’Korn under center on the road, I’d give the nod to OSU ever so slightly. But this is absolutely a game that UM can win with an okay performance from their QB; I’m not sure OSU can win if Barrett completes 50% of his passes and runs the ball 25 times. I’m not taking the maize-tinged glasses off quite yet, so I’m expecting UM pulls out a nail-biter and moves on to the B1G title game.

jtb had one of his best games ever against M last year in AA. This year he's in c-bus. He will play well - how well will depend a lot on M's D and that D isn't the one that got hammered in 2015.

Best and Worst: Indiana | mgoblog

http://mgoblog.com/diaries/best-and-worst-indiana-2

Meh: Straight to Streaming I’m not a cord-cutter by any means, but I do subscribe to a number of streaming services, including Netflix, Amazon Video, HBO Go, and (briefly because I wasn’t paying attention) Hulu. And they are all great in their own respects; the original programming plus access to older movies is great. But beyond the Marvel television universe, alternative histories, and reminders why being single in Brooklyn can be insufferable even when you legitimately like the two people involved, the real benefit of all these services have become the bargain bin for those “direct-to-video” sequels you used to find in bins at Meijer. You find out they’ve made 9 Hellraiser movies, 6 Kickboxers, and 14(!) The Land Before Time films. They’re mostly garbage (I like Dave “Batista” Bautista as much as the next guy, but there is only one Tong Po in my life), but they can still be entertaining simply because they are usually carbon-copies of the original movies with some element turned up to 11. This game felt like one Netflix suggests to you because you watched 10 minutes of a documentary on corn. Last year’s game was an epic contest featuring Jordan Howard putting up the 2nd-most yards rushing ever against the Wolverines, Jake Rudock throwing for 6 TDs and 440 yards, a game-tying catch by Chesson on 4th down with 12 seconds left in the 4th, and a double-overtime thriller that ended with a 4th-down pass breakup on the goalline. It was nerve-wracking and exhilarating at the same time, a game where both teams just threw haymakers and Michigan happened to wobble just a bit less. But this year, it just felt like a weak retread, a cash-grab because the schedule demanded it. Indiana isn’t an offensive juggernaut anymore; they’re a slightly above-average defense (which for Indiana is a miracle) and a janky offense. Michigan was starting John O’Korn because Wilton Speight was injured, and when most UM fans are trying to convince themselves that “It’s virtually impossible to be as bad as he was at Houston under Harbaugh” and “I’m sure UM can win running the ball”, that doesn’t instill a lot of confidence. Plus, there were gale-force winds, freezing temperatures, and I guess a little snow… It was a close game for the first 3 quarters mostly because nobody could throw the ball with any consistency and both teams just sort of hunkered down and played snowball. I don’t buy the narrative that Jim Harbaugh didn’t “trust” O’Korn to throw the ball if necessary (Harbaugh doesn’t seem like the type to hold inconsistent views on a player), but O’Korn looked extremely uneasy out there early on and the playcalling was clearly designed to establish a running game and only have O’Korn throw on an early down. The fact O’Korn consistently missed open receivers and also had a nasty habit of rolling backwards while under pressure (if you had flashbacks of late Devin Gardner, you aren’t alone) didn’t help. Michigan was able to grind up Indiana behind De’Veon Smith’s 158 yard, 2 TD performance, a fitting senior sendoff for the first (in many, we hope) Harbaugh backs wearing the Maize and Blue. On the other side, Michigan’s defense bottled up Indiana’s rushing attack for most of the game, and most deep Lagow throws were either knocked down or nearly picked off. And oh by the way, Indiana had an average starting position of their own 20 while UM’s was at their own 38, goosed at it were by 2 punt blocks by the Wolverines. And it wasn’t even fun in the way NC State vs. Notre Dame was, with drenching rain making every pass, tackle, kick, or even snap an adventure. This was just an unnecessary sequel to a classic, where the stakes were high and the game was close because of ineptitude and terrible conditions, not necessarily a well-played game. Still, it’s a game UM survived, and sets up another epic matchup against OSU next weekend. Let’s hope that next chapter in the franchise plays out a bit better than the last dozen. Best: Lean On After last week, for some inexplicable reason, there was concern that Michigan’s defense was faltering, that they were “exposed” because Akrum Wadley broke tackles and was basically Iowa’s offense in their upset win. No matters how many times you pointed out Iowa gained 230 yards total, their lowest output of the year (which is impressive considering PSU, Wisconsin, Northwestern, and NDSU all held them under 300 total yards), or that they averaged 3.4 yards per play, or that they completed 3 passes for 14 yards to everyone not named Wadley, or dozens of other examples of the defense’s steely performance, they’d say the team is collapsing. They’d point to Minnesota and Indiana last year, and say this and MSU scoring a bunch of meaningless points were canaries in the coal mine. In some ways, it’s a natural reaction. It’s a very real issue that guys like Wadley and Scott have looked solid running the ball against a unit that at one point held 5 straight teams under 80 yards rushing. Tackling from the linebackers and secondary haven’t been uniformly bad like they were in years past (as anyone who lived through the GERG years can attest), but it’s definitely been a weakness some teams have exploited. And OSU looms as the greatest mountain to scale, full of ogres, poisonous snakes, and mobile QBs throwing to slot receivers. But this ain’t 2015. UM’s defense has been dominant from game 1, and even the couple of cracks they’ve shown simply drop the defense from “one of the best ever” to “probably the best this year”. There seems to be this misnomer that “dominant” means, for lack of a better word, ungameplan-able. I mean, it may be news to some, but teams will do whatever they can to exploit your weaknesses, to force you to play left-handed, and simply call plays that put the ball in their playmakers’ hands in advantageous positions. Defenses will adjust, and UM has done an admirable job countering some of these changes, but when a game is close and the other team has its full playbook available to them, they are able to pry at these weak points. It’s why last week’s game was so weird; Iowa wasn’t overly successful running the ball on a per-play basis, but when you can do it about 50 times you’ll roll a 7 or 11 at least a couple of times. In this game, Indiana had 255 total yards of offense on 66 plays for a paltry 3.9 yards per play, which are both their lowest outputs for the season. In fact, only OSU and UM have held IU under 300 yards, and that’s coming off a bit of an upswing for the Hoosiers, as they dropped 344 passing yards on PSU last weekend. And as is a custom with most UM opponents, IU got their yards on a handful of drives and not much else. Indiana had scoring drives of 75 (TD) and 68 (FG) yards. The other 10 drives (including 6 3- and 4-and out), they picked up 127 yards. This isn’t a vintage IU offense and the weather was butt, but that’s still an impressive performance against an offense that came into the game as one of the more explosive in the nation. Plus, IU’s biggest failing, their inability to finish scoring drives with points, wound up being pretty good; they got into the Michigan 40 yard line twice and scored 10 points. For the game, UM recorded 12 TFLs for 47(!) yards, including 3 sacks for 28 (!!). And that TFL number probably underestimates how little breathing room IU had on the ground near the line; IU had 14 runs for 3 yards or less. Michigan had 8 pass breakups, which is incredible since Lagow only threw the ball 29 times and completed 14 of them. So in other words, if it wasn’t a catch Stribling, Hill, or Lewis were right in the receiver’s pocket. And the two biggest throws of the day were a 31-yard completion to Timian that was only open because Hill tripped, and the 37-yarder to Westbrook that was reviewed because the ball was moving a bit and Stribling was contesting it the whole way. OSU will be a stiffer test, but at this point the defensive performance is becoming somewhat opponent-independent. Exactly 1 team thus far has cracked 400 yards of total offense, and that was MSU (401) making it look pretty in their loss. In 2015, UM gave up 461 yards to Minnesota, 527 to Indiana, and 482 to OSU. And it’s not like UM hasn’t faced good offenses; according to S&P, Colorado and PSU are top-40 offenses they beat by a combined 94-31. True, there have been beleaguered offenses on the docket (Rutgers, Maryland, Illinois), but Michigan also beat those teams by a combined 178-11. As the saying goes, you can only beat the teams on your schedule, and UM has just suffocated basically every team they’ve seen. With the uncertainty at quarterback and it being a road game, expect the defense to be leaned on one more time. And unlike last year, this is a unit playing quite well heading into the game, and will be facing an offense that has had it’s own troubles in recent games. I’m not saying UM will be perfect, but a repeat of last year doesn’t seem likely by the defense. Best: Senior Smash In their last home games, it was the seniors that pulled this game out. Wormley, Glasgow, Charlton, and the rest of the front 7 just chewed up Indiana for most of the game. Indiana could barely get a pass off, and when they did Lewis and Stribling were there to knock the ball down or jar it loose. On offense, Smith had a career-high in yards and had two fantastic TD runs that were vintage De’Veon: he’d snake through the line, take some contact, bounce off, and surge toward the endzone. On a day when the passing game wasn’t taken out of the barn too much and was sputtering when it did get a shot (7/16 for 59 yards, 2 sacks, overthrows or drops by Chesson, Darboh and Butt), Smith carried the offense to a win. And while the offensive line wasn’t great (I saw Bredeson consistently getting pushed back/run around by IU’s aggressive front 7), Michigan still had 12 of their 15 first downs result from the run, and for the game UM was able to hold onto the ball almost 10 minutes longer than Indiana. Best: A Healthy Glasgow In this game last year, Jordan Howard was nigh unstoppable (35 carries, 238 yards, 2 TDs, 1 reception, 7 yards and a TD), and at least part of it was due to injuries to Mario Ojemudia and, in particular, Ryan Glasgow. It’s common knowledge that the defense took a nosedive last year when both were out, and in particular the run defense cratered without Glasgow at tackle. What a difference a year makes.. Glasgow has been healthy all season, shooting up NFL draft charts, and absolutely destroyed a number of IU running plays by knifing into the backfield or chasing down backs as they probed the edges of the defense. He led the team with 3 TFLs, 5 solo tackles, and also forced a fumble. Wormley and Charlton were equally disruptive in their own ways (Wormley continuously chased chased down backs all night, and Charlton has basically entered into the “You aren’t stopping me without a hold” phase of his career as a rusher), but a big reason why I don’t expect OSU to have a lot of success running the ball inside next week is because of him. Worst: A Re-Debut I get the weather was bad. Indiana tried to throw the ball downfield and passes would just die. Indiana’s punter isn’t very good, but when his kicks weren’t being blocked you could still tell that the wind wreaked havoc on the ball in the air. And it was his first start at QB in basically 2 years, in a completely new offense from the one he ran last time, with said terrible weather conditions. Again, I understand that. At the same time, this was an inauspicious debut for O’Korn. You can try to bury my in caveats, but 3.7 yards per pass is basically 3 yards worse than Tyler O’Connor’s play against OSU on the same day in largely the same conditions. The gameplan early on was clearly to give O’Korn some confidence, as Michigan called a nice swing pass to Isaac that picked up 21 yards (Chesson being flagged for a legit illegal block pushed UM back), and tried to get O’Korn out on the edge with some designed runs. Unfortunately, IU sniffed those out, and so instead of slowing the game down it seemed like O’Korn’s worst habits began to emerge. On a couple of passes, he’d drop back, feel some pressure, and then pull a Manziel and run backwards before wobbly throwing a ball short. He nearly pulled UM out of FG range on their second FG with that type of play, and floated a dangerous ball on another. Beyond a sack, running around like that increases the odds one of your linemen gets flagged for a hold or some other drive-killer. O’Korn did settle down a bit after his 30-yard run on 3rd-and-eight to set up the go-ahead TD, and on their nearly 9-minute drive to end the game, O’Korn got a first down throwing the ball to Darboh and another on a late hit out of bounds after he broke the pocket. It goes without saying UM needs a better performance out of their QB to win next weekend. I know Barrett had a pretty terrible game himself throwing the ball, but (a) I don’t expect the weather will be nearly as onerous next game, and (b) he’ll be at home. If Speight can’t go, it’ll be on O’Korn to establish some semblance of a passing attack, and against OSU’s aggressive secondary that might end terribly. I’m certainly not ready to bury him after one game, but a lot of the things Speight brings to the game (accuracy, ability to feel the rush and always look downfield) were definitely missing out there, and it has to improve. Worst: RPS Without the PS I wasn’t bothered that UM ran the ball most of the time; this was a game where you played to the weather as much as anything, and if Indiana is going to keep gifting you great field position there’s no reason to give it back with dangerous playcalls. That said, I am done with UM calling running plays to the short side of the field. Last week it was a couple of long-developing runs (including the big Evans TFL on 3rd down), and this week it was Peppers getting the chance to throw the ball as he sprinted toward the sideline. Indiana had sniffed the play out, but Peppers in the open field is always dangerous when you have some real estate, but you give away that freedom when you bring the sideline into the game. I’m not saying you always have to run to the field side of the play, but one plays when it’s reasonable to assume your ballcarrier will need to make a guy or two miss, give him some extra room to work with so that the defense can’t just jumble everyone up. Also, and this might just be selective recall, but it felt like a number of the passes called for O’Korn required him to throw across the middle of a congested field. That’s likely a result of his issues running the offense and how compact the defense could get, but a number of his throws had chances to be tipped or outright picked off. It’s been a couple of weeks now where the playcalls don’t quite match the strengths on the field, and that has to change before they go to Columbus. Best: Special Teams We Deserved He's the kicker Gotham deserves.https://t.co/P8iFdRWClN — CBS Sports Network (@CBSSportsNet) November 19, 2016 Kenny Allen made a couple of short FGs early on to keep UM in the game, punted reasonably well, and consistently booted kick-offs out of through the endzone. But immense praise must go to the punt return team, which blocked two IU efforts while Peppers save UM huge yardage by catching wobbly balls in the air and at least getting them down. In a game that early-on felt like one of field position and some luck, getting an extra 10-15 yards per drive were huge. Worst: Les Miles Strikes Again I’m glad the guy got to come back to Michigan and take in a game. He was seemingly always on borrowed time these past couple of years at LSU, surviving a coup by boosters out for blood last season after similar, less explicit calls for his removal in years past. And while I agree that he needed to go this year, getting fired in the middle of the season is always rough. So I’m not going to begrudge the guy a return to some friendlier confines. That said, ESPN had no reason to drag him into a booth during the game and discuss his future job prospects. I mean, ESPN has always had a weird infatuation/hard-on for UM and Les Miles, to the point that Miles had to refute seemingly fabricated reports from ol’ Herby of his imminent arrival in Ann Arbor before playing for the national title. Yes, I get that Miles has an agent and that’s how stunts like this happen, but just call the game. Instead, we get Miles basically saying nothing while UM and IU battle into the 2nd quarter. And you’d think those guys would have learned their lesson with previous UM-related visitors. Next Week: Something Inconsequential Michigan goes out of conference to end the season, battling the fightin’ Frank Solich’s of Ohio University. Oh wait, no, UM is going to Columbus for yet another epic battle with the Buckeyes. Part of me knows OSU does this every year, where they take MSU for granted and look vulnerable just to get my hopes up. When full operational, Urban Meyer’s units are swirling balls of death and broken chairs. But this OSU team is definitely weaker than earlier iterations, at least offensively. They rely immensely on J.T. Barrett to keep the ball moving both in the air and on the ground; he’s run the ball 164 times this season for only 4.4 yards per carry. Mike Weber is talented but also a redshirt freshman, and after a blistering start to the year has been nothing more than fine for about a month (he had 111 yards against MSU, but 52 came on a single run). Curtis Samuel is terrifying both as a receiver and a rusher, but after him there’s a whole bunch of meh at receiver (Noah Brown had a career high in catches and 4 TDs against Oklahoma, but otherwise has been held in check most of the year). Their offensive line has struggled at times keeping people off Barrett (they’ve given up 17 sacks on the year), and are going to be facing one of the national leaders in TFLs. This isn’t last year’s offense with Elliott and a slew of seasoned NFL draft picks; it’s a younger unit propped up a bit by Samuel, Weber, and especially Barrett. As for the OSU defense, it’s chaotic and has stars in the secondary but does seem susceptible to traditional running offenses. Wisconsin blasted them for 236 yards on 46 carries, MSU put up 207 on 35, and both NW and PSU were able to keep the game close by moving the ball on the ground somewhat. If Michigan can keep it close, I think there are drives that can be pounded out between the tackles. And if Speight can go and doesn’t have any lingering issues throwing the ball, I think UM’s receiving corp can give OSU trouble, especially Jake Butt against the Buckeye linebackers. I also assume Peppers will be fully deployed in this game, and he’s due for a big run or catch. Two weeks ago, I thought UM was the moderate favorite. With O’Korn under center on the road, I’d give the nod to OSU ever so slightly. But this is absolutely a game that UM can win with an okay performance from their QB; I’m not sure OSU can win if Barrett completes 50% of his passes and runs the ball 25 times. I’m not taking the maize-tinged glasses off quite yet, so I’m expecting UM pulls out a nail-biter and moves on to the B1G title game. Go Blue.

**maxreturn** · November 21, 2016, 07:37 AM

OSU will exploit UM's edge weakness. JTB won't have to throw the ball deep. Assuming O'Korn is starting, my fear is that JH will go into an ultra conservative and predictable shell. Let's get imaginative with some misdirection and shorter passing routes that will give O'Korn some confidence...some screens and for heavens sakes get the ball into the hands of Butt. If he does these things it is a close game. If not, OSU pulls away in the 2nd half. I just don't see a "W" this year. Not quite there yet.

**Jeff Buchanan** · November 21, 2016, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by maxreturn View Post

.......Not quite there yet.

I don't get this sort of reasoning. THIS is the year. It's too bad that M didn't get rolled in c-bus last year instead of AA. I think if this game were to be played in The Big House, M would likely win.

So, yeah there's a disadvantage there and, yeah, not having Speight with what he did do well at QB and instead having O'Korn, who we now absolutely know why Speight started over him, is a disadvantage.

But this looser mentality really bothers me. This a great team with a decent offense that can run the ball effectively. It is a terrific defense - maybe M's best ever.

The Game is eminently winnable in c-bus and with O'Korn IN 2016! Next year there will be big holes to fill. The time is now.

**WM Wolverine** · November 21, 2016, 08:06 AM

OSU's offensively is the type of team M has had issues with defensively. They've a mobile QB, run the read-option, have athletes that can get to the edge, make our LB's miss tackles and Weber should give us even more troubles than Wadley did.

Plus we're down our QB, plus we're on the road... If Speight starts I'll have some optimism...

Our defense is good enough that it could keep us in the game (hold OSU to about 20) and even give us a chance to win but I just can't see our offense clicking with O'Korn under center. Against a good defense like the Buckeyes, I don't see him moving the chains. He's a shotgun QB imo that needs to have a 3-4 receivers wide and make quick decisions or have plenty of time to throw.

Iowa's DL rushing just four gave us more problems than our pass protection could handle and is the reason we lost the Iowa game and why Speight is injured. The Buckeyes defensive line is even better.

**Hannibal** · November 21, 2016, 08:43 AM

If Speight plays and is healthy: OSU 38, UM 24
If Speight plays and is only 80%: OSU 38, UM 20
If O'Korn plays: OSU 41, UM 10

Either way: lay the points, take the over. IMHO the over is a no brainer.

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