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They've had stadiums built to which they contributed nothing toward the enormous costs of construction twice, then convinced another community to build them a 3rd with taxpayers again (with no public vote) footing the majority of the bill. To me that's a racket, but I'm sure it's been hell for them.
Mark Wohlers is a goddamn hero. Fuck TBS. Skip Caray was a communist. Bobby Cox secretly ate McRibs in the dugout and called it the best southern barbecue he'd ever had.Comment
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Bobby Cox never ate the McRib secretly.Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.Comment
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[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gSWZQUEV_Q"]McDonalds Blue Jays caps Bobby Cox 1985 - YouTube[/ame]Comment
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No, the Braves have NOT had stadiums built twice.
* Again, Atlanta built Fulton-County to attract a team. That was pre-Milwaukee's move.
* Turner Field was Centennial Olympic Stadium. It was built as an Olympic track and field stadium. The City of Atlanta knew that the cheaply-built 30+ year-old Fulton-County Stadium would need to be razed or completely re-built and re-purposing Centennial was cheaper - and it answered the question of what the city would do with a giant Olympic track facility the used for two weeks.
* The City benefitted from 20 years of lease payments they received from the Braves - which helped defray the cost of building the Olympic Stadium to begin with.
Now, is Cobb County foolish for helping build the Braves new digs? Maybe. What SunTrust paid for naming rights, the annual lease the Braves pay, and what the Braves chipped in to build it certainly helps. Plus, as a number of economists have noted, this is actually bringing new dollars into Cobb County. So, while you can't count Fulton County Stadium or Centennial Olympic Stadium against the Braves, you can with SunTrust park. Time will tell if if what Commissioner Lee and Cobb County did was a good investment.
Regardless, the City of Atlanta is to blame for not maintaining their property properly and refusing to work with the Braves - all so they could build the Falcons a new billion dollar stadium while they let Turner Field fall to ruin."The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham LincolnComment
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Quick update for Scrooge McFonda...Tribe down to their last strike ties it up. Off to extras!Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.Comment
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Cobb is doing just fine with the Suntrust park investment. The park is phenomenal and development in the Cumberland district is booming. The atmosphere around the stadium is 180 different from the no-mans-land down at Turner Field.
On the selfish side its a mile from the house. We've been to 8 games this season.Atlanta, GAComment
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Only cost the county $375 million and it's attracted hundreds of minimum wage seasonal jobs!!! YES!!!! And only 12 years till the Braves demand upgrades!!!
Also, Tribe won. This one I'll chalk up to luckComment
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Several large corporations have relocated to Cumberland since the Braves announcement, and there are new developments and plans for many more...so good talking point, reality be damned, huh?Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View PostAtlanta, GAComment
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Sounds great. There's essentially zero actual evidence that pro teams are good for local economies, especially when they blackmail the public into paying for their stadiums. Economists have studied it quite a bit. Ironic that you say "reality be damned" because the reality is there's such paltry evidence that building new stadiums dramtically benefits communities. It puts them deep in debt from which it takes decades to dig out, only to find the team asking for a new stadium by that time.
Who are the large corporations relocating to Cobb County and have they explicitly said that without the Braves being there, they never would have considered it?
As this article puts it: sports teams have the same economic impact as a mid-size department store. Except dept stores rarely get $300-500 million subsidies.
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The Braves situation is a bit different. It added 1,700 jobs in Cobb County, $34 million extra in taxes and rent per year, and a new shopping and entertainment area.
But that's not what we were talking about. I said from the onset that whether the SunTrust deal proved to be a boon for Cobb County or hurt Fulton County remained to be seen. Excellent strawman, though. What we were talking about was whether the Braves had or demanded that Fulton County and Turner Field be built as you alleged.
You were wrong, but like the good Trumpian you are you change the discussion points and in a grand and misguided appeal to authority post links supporting an argument we weren't having."The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham LincolnComment
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In the end, as a lifelong Braves fan, I wish they had stayed at Turner Field despite the fact that SunStrust has more parking, and the area around it is allowed to be developed and controlled by the Braves - unlike at Turner Field. The fact is the mayor of Atlanta was unwilling to upgrade basic needed infrastructure at the City's re-purposed Olympic venue property they leased to the Braves as Turner Field, and they were unwilling to let the Braves develop the area around it while simultaneously giving the Falcons the world. To add insult, the City planned to raise the lease price at renewal time. It was and is crazy.
Now, as I said, this may not benefit Cobb County. That remains to be seen. What the Cobb County commissioner, Tim Lee, did was controversial, but the fact was the Braves were not going to sign a lease without some basic and reasonable concessions by the city and if Cobb County had not wanted to make the deal, odds are the Braves would be in Nashville or Charlotte right now."The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham LincolnComment
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And finally, I hope Spencer Strasmore moves the Indians (RACIST!) from that cesspoll of a city drowing in urban decay on the polluted side of Lake Eerie to Las Vegas; which all would agree is a better city and a better sportstown in a better state with better citizens.
Cleveland doesn't deserve professional sports. That fact was well known back decades ago when Sir Art Modell wisely moved the REAL Browns to Baltimore.
And if Strasmore couldn't get the Induans to Vegas, at the very least, the city of Cleveland should have never built the Jake -rather, they should have mandated that the Indians play at Cleveland Stadium for ever - or the parking lot of a Kroger or whatever.Last edited by AlabamAlum; September 14, 2017, 11:42 PM."The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham LincolnComment
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Got $100 for $190 on kc tomorrow, so that means it ends now.Comment
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Bauer is certainly beatable, especially against Vargas. I like the 2:1 odds there. Saturday and Sunday are Carrasco and Kluber. Last Kluber outing Tigers were getting +400!
Also, Jose Ramirez is really good. I'm not sure who wins the MVP in the AL with Trout missing 8 weeks, but he should be right there.Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.Comment
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