Michigan Football, Team 137, 2016 Season.

[jaadam4]

Maybe he could make it back by the playoffs?

[The Oracle]

Yeah, good shot.

[jaadam4]

lol

[hack]

Why was the hospital stay so long?

[jaadam4]

The hospital food is better than the prison food they serve in the cafeteria to the athletes?

[hack]

LOL!

[Detroit Dan]

The hospital food is better than the prison food they serve in the cafeteria to the athletes?

LOL!

[Rocky Bleier]

Michigan working with CBs to be better in run support:

"When Michigan lost Jeremy Clark to a knee injury earlier this season, it lost its most effective run-supporting corner -- which could loom large in three weeks when the Wolverines visit Ohio State."

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2016/11/michigan_working_with_cbs_to_b.html#incart_river_index

[Jeff Buchanan]

When all is said and done, Michigan football is in no different position than it was before the Iowa loss with some complicating factors and I'll get to that ......

If the top 4 CFP rankings that I hold to be accurate are actually chosen by the Committee on Tuesday night: (1) Alabama, (2) osu, (3), Louisville, (4) Michigan ...... then, for M to solidly hold on to one of those 4 spots, it has to win out. It had to win out anyway and before the Iowa loss.

If M had won in Iowa City, M and osu would likely be switched and the same outcome has to be achieved by M i.e., M has to win out. Nothing has changed with regard to M making the CFP.

Complicating factors:

(1) I suppose you could argue, based on the vagaries of the outcomes within the other P5 conferences and the myriad scenarios in the outcome of the B10 standings and B10 Chamiponhship game, that M had a better chance of getting one of the 4 CFP spots without the loss to Iowa, assuming it were to beat IU, osu and lose to whomever in the B10 Championsip game. I'll grant that. But that's done so, looking forward is the only way to go as I've outlined above.

(2) The seeding in the CFP, 1-4, will be important for M. I don't see #1 changing. I do see the other 3 spots still being up for grabs. The best spot for M, if it actually does grab one of the 4 spots is NOT #4.

[WM Wolverine]

M will need to earn it by winning out which is likely same scenario as before, there is just absolutely no opportunity for M to sneak in without winning B1G.

[BlueInCostaRica]

On the day before the Iowa game, M had to win the B1G then would be in the CFP. Now, on the day after the Iowa game, M has to win the B1G and will be in the CFP.

As Meyer said after the OSU loss, "Nothing has changed". He was right about both OSU and UM.

[BlueInCostaRica]

For me personally, one thing did change: my belief that M could beat OSU.

[Jeff Buchanan]

For me personally, one thing did change: my belief that M could beat OSU.

I can relate. The reality, however, is that predictions are just that. A prediction is a statement about the future. It's a guess, sometimes based on facts or evidence, but not always.

We looked at the factual evidence regarding Iowa and M and predicted a comfortable win for M. That didn't happen. That's why it was a prediction.

By the same logic, we can predict an osu win based on the factual evidence for the two teams but it is still a prediction that may not reflect the real outcome..... in fact I very much doubt it will either way.

That's because there is so much variance, events that preclude predictions, in sporting events and esp. in CFB games. I think we saw those in Spades in Iowa City. Who would have thought. In most sports books, M had a 90% chance of a win. Didn't happen. Variance.

[BlueInCostaRica]

Not quite. What I stated was not a prediction; it is simply my belief. People have all kinds of beliefs, right and wrong. I could provide a myriad of examples, but that might violate forum rules on politics and religion.

[Jeff Buchanan]

The East contenders:

M -28 v IU

PSU - 22.5 v Rutgers

osu -23.5 v MSU

The West contenders:

Minny -2 v nFw

Neb -14 v Maryland

Wisky -26.5 v Purdue

http://www.dratings.com/sports-odds/american-sports-odds/ncaa-football-odds-lines/