MICHIGAN'S MEN'S BASKETBALL: 2015-2016

[WM Wolverine]

Huge hit for M and Levert.

[hack]

Losing in just the same way they always do. 8-26 from 3, other team getting the hustle points, score-could-have-been-worse first half followed by slow widening of lead in second. Let's see if it departs from teh script.

[Paul L]

As certain as death and taxes, our abortion-like lady Wolverines are completely shitting the bed with their tournament hopes on the line.

Bunch of fucking pussies, led by head pussy JB.

[hack]

Yeah. As usual, Michigan's team of shooters shoots worse from 3 than the other team.

[Cody_Russell]

If Duncan Robinson isn't making 3's, he is easily the most hurtful player on the team.

[Niffla]

Does anybody envision a big ten tourney run? I doubt even the most optimistic of M fans could envision that at this point.

Back to the NIT. Well it was fun being relevant for those few years while it lasted.

[jaadam4]

How have we fallen this much? How do we go from being in the championship game to NIT this quickly?

[Hannibal]

How have we fallen this much? How do we go from being in the championship game to NIT this quickly?

Shitty recruiting and completely ignoring defense and anything inside the three point line.

[WM Wolverine]

All the really good talent left after their sophomore seasons, McGary, GR3 and Stauskas would be seniors this season. Caris Levert, an NBA talent, and Spike have been hurt more often than not the last couple seasons. The impact of losing those two has been under estimated by most everyone here... Lately our recruiting classes have been:

*Aubrey Dawkins, MAAR, Duncan Robinson, Ricky Doyle, Kameron Chatman, DJ Wilson...

After Kameron Chatman, a lot of these guys were plan C types that JB brought in at the last minute just to fill a scholarship when I thought they should've banked a scholarship (or 2) for the following class. Instead M was left not having room for Langford and others when he's the type of talent you never turn down...

The class of '14 recruits above impact has been minimal so far and is a cause for concern when Walton, Irvin & Donnal graduate as JB continues his trend to be the bridesmaid for every impact recruit since 2014.

Way too much is riding on the '16 class of Simpson, Teske, Davis & Watson. Simpson being nearly the lone exception who I like more than Walton. Teske & Davis are a step above in talent of Doyle/Donnal, more athletic and gives M the needed size when they face a loaded frontcourt, we'll see if they are the difference makers M NEEDS...

Sparty in the '16 class looks to land the #1 overall recruit in Josh Jackson, a kid from Detroit and already has 2 other five stars in Miles Bridges, Joshua Langford and another talent that just missed five star status in Cassius Winston... M was recruiting all of the above... The '15 recruiting class was where M didn't have scholarships to give out because of JB decided to fill every scholarship with mediocre talent when the class had tons of talent that had M as favorites...

Derryck Thornton PG (5*) told us he wanted to play right away at PG yet he chose to go to Duke... Jaylen Brown SF (5*) from '15 at the last moment chose Cal over M. He & Thornton are the type of impact players they've needed to replace some of the talent like McGary, GR3, Stauskas... Again in '15, Luke Kennard SG (5*) ended up at Duke too after M was his favorite for nearly two years... Much of the same for Jalen Brunson PG (5*) who chose Villanova over M...

[Niffla]

I don't think there's ever (EVER) an excuse or reason for a program on the level of a UM to miss the tournament. Not even once, let alone two consecutive seasons. I mean this program can't even crack the top 68? Lol. Ridiculous. It's not like I'm expecting this team to challenge for national titles every other year or even freaking Big Ten titles for that matter. All I ask for them to do is crack the top 68 and get some tourney run, even if the short lived runs outnumber the lengthy ones. Just fucking get in and give us a reason to watch in March.

Personally I think back to back seasons of missing the tournament is plenty enough to get Beilein's ass out of Ann Arbor, although obviously in reality we know that he's going nowhere.

That brief stretch of deep tourney runs was the exception to the rule. The rule though is mediocre basketball teams and as long as John Beilein is here that's what this program will strive for. Yes he undoubtedly did better than the few before him but this program can do better, MUCH better, and they deserve better.

[lineygoblue]

I just wish there was more incentive and rewards for players staying in college. I have no problem with a LeBron/Kobe type going straight to the NBA out of HS, and wouldn't want to see a rule that disallows that.

But once a student athlete chooses college, there should be some sort of an incentive/reward system for staying in college and getting the degree. College basketball is now basically a 1-2 year proposition that is nothing more than a waiting period to satisfy the NBA. College basketball shouldn't have to be reduced to one-or-two and done.

Take a look at the NBA today, and see how many guys are on the rosters that made it "big" after a one or two year college "career". And yes, there are the situations like Caris LeVert, who probably SHOULD have went early, and will probably not be as highly sought as he would have been a year ago.

I'm sure that representatives from the NBA and NCAA could get together and work out something so that College basketball can get more toward graduating its athletes, while the NBA would still have a steady flow of new talent.

But then there's the networks.... arrrrgghhh....

[Whitley]

All the really good talent left after their sophomore seasons, McGary, GR3 and Stauskas would be seniors this season. Caris Levert, an NBA talent, and Spike have been hurt more often than not the last couple seasons. The impact of losing those two has been under estimated by most everyone here... Lately our recruiting classes have been:

*Aubrey Dawkins, MAAR, Duncan Robinson, Ricky Doyle, Kameron Chatman, DJ Wilson...

After Kameron Chatman, a lot of these guys were plan C types that JB brought in at the last minute just to fill a scholarship when I thought they should've banked a scholarship (or 2) for the following class. Instead M was left not having room for Langford and others when he's the type of talent you never turn down...

The class of '14 recruits above impact has been minimal so far and is a cause for concern when Walton, Irvin & Donnal graduate as JB continues his trend to be the bridesmaid for every impact recruit since 2014.

Way too much is riding on the '16 class of Simpson, Teske, Davis & Watson. Simpson being nearly the lone exception who I like more than Walton. Teske & Davis are a step above in talent of Doyle/Donnal, more athletic and gives M the needed size when they face a loaded frontcourt, we'll see if they are the difference makers M NEEDS...
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yep. spot on.

[jaadam4]

Personally I think back to back seasons of missing the tournament is plenty enough to get Beilein's ass out of Ann Arbor, although obviously in reality we know that he's going nowhere.

This.. Maybe its because of the turnaround and success that we've had but this shit shouldn't be tolerated. Our recruiting has been garbage.

[lineygoblue]

I don't know if its enough to get him sent down the road, but it might be enough to get Warde Manuel to call him into the AD's office to assure the new AD that things are under control.

[jaadam4]

So in all seriousness, how bad are things looking for next year? From what WM posted a little while ago it makes the future look really bleak. If next years class is just adding to the suckary what are we doing here? If that's the case then we'd be looking at freshmen leading the charge 2 years from now. This looks like a Brady Hoke pyramid scheme.

What the hell is the plan? Maybe HARBAUGH can coach bball too.