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  • Sorry guys, in today's world this kind of stink doesn't go away easily (if ever).


    2013 NFL Combine: Florio says teams want to know if Manti Te'o is gay


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    • A 4.85 40? And he's supposed to run down NFL RBs? I wouldn't touch that clown with a 10 foot pole.

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      • Hits just keep on coming...this oughta throw the Mayberry boys from Nebraska for a loop.

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          Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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          • Originally posted by WingsFan View Post
            2013 NFL Combine: Florio says teams want to know if Manti Te'o is gay

            Says more about the NFL than it does Teo'...



            Anyway, the kid seems to be in meltdown mode...and not getting very good advice from his handlers. From what I understand, he can make up alot of ground at ND's pro day in a few weeks, but that's just from reading what others say. I really have no firm understanding of the in's / out's of the NFL draft.

            I'm still willing to bet that he goes in the first round.

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            • personally, I think his performance in the bama game hurt him more than anything else.

              NFL has many guys who were not the fastest or the strongest... but made plays.. And the NFL still has them.
              Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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              • Originally posted by Clashmore Mike View Post
                Says more about the NFL than it does Teo'...
                Is it just the NFL, or is it human nature? If you are a man who'd rather not shower with a gay man, you're not exactly an outlier.

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                • The NFL/sports are a last bastion. If the military can adjust, so can sports.

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                  • Allowing openly gay men and women to serve in the military was purely 100% a political correctness move that was imposed from the top down, and it's way too soon to say if the military has adjusted successfully or not. There's no track record yet, and even if that track record ends up being bad, I guarantee you no news outlet would ever report it in a million years. The subject is totally untouchable, and anyone who speaks out is branded as a bigoted, hate mongering homophobe.

                    There are some illegitimate, irrational reasons to not want an openly gay football player on your team, but there are legitimate, rational reasons too.
                    Last edited by Hannibal; February 28, 2013, 08:25 AM.

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                    • Well I think the rational ones stem from the irrational ones you're going to get. Football teams are in it to win and not to promote diversity and acceptance. No dual mandate there.

                      Point taken -- when you hear about it in the media, as a few months back or whenever it was, you're going to get that side of it, sure.

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                      • legitimate, rational reasons
                        There are, perhaps, non-bigoted "natural" or "visceral" reasons, but I wouldn't call them rational. If you've played a lot of teams sports or showered a bunch at your workout club, you've almost certainly showered with or in the vicinity of some who is gay. Without incident.

                        It's fairly irrational to assume some showering with a gay guy in that environment will lead to some sort of "bad event."

                        It's a visceral reaction, not a rational one.
                        Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                        Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                        • It's just as "irrational" to assume that women showering with men will lead to some sort of "bad event", or that heterosexual men in that environment will act in an unprofessional manner.

                          The threat of getting raped in the shower isn't the only concern at play. Has anyone considered the possibility that maybe it's okay to not feel comfortable getting naked with somebody who might be sexually attracted to you when you are not sexually attracted to them?
                          Last edited by Hannibal; February 28, 2013, 09:28 AM.

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                          • So flawed it hurts. I mean, goodness.
                            Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                            Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                            • Then again, I'm dealing with thevisceral "creep me out" argument that someone is passing off as "rational."
                              Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                              Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                              • You're right, it's irrational.

                                We need to integrate all locker room and teach those "heterophobic" women a thing or two about sensitivity and tolerance.

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