Detroit Red Wings & the NHL

[Optimus Prime]

Phoenix has 38 players on their roster? Huh....no wonder they look fresh.

3 out of the 8 have more Non-West Greenlanders (NY, Nash, NJ), and really none (notwithstanding the obviously incorrect Phoenix numbers) have a very clear majority.
Thanks for showing once again, that players from other than North-North Dakota are equal to them. Good thing the National Sport of Canda, eh...... is lacrosse.


Just the facts not your mindless subterfuge. Next time wear your bifocals, swamp your diaper and take a geography lesson... a sense of humor wouldn't hurt you either.

Phoenix Coyotes 2011-2012 ROSTER

No FORWARDS HT/WT Birthdate Country Exp. Drafted

12 Paul Bissonnette (RW/LW) L 6-2/216 3/11/85 CAN 3 Pit '03 (4/121)
89 Mikkel Boedker (RW/LW) L 6-0/206 12/16/89 DEN 3 Phx '08 (1/8 )
49 Alexandre Bolduc (LW/C) L 6-1/197 6/26/85 CAN 3 StL '03 (4/127)
8 Gilbert Brule (RW/C) R 5-11/174 1/1/87 CAN 6 CBJ '05 (1/6)
24 Kyle Chipchura (C/LW) L 6-2/203 2/19/86 CAN 4 Mtl '04 (1/18 )
19 Shane Doan (RW) R 6-1/223 10/10/76 CAN 15 Wpg '95 (1/7)
15 Boyd Gordon (C/RW) R 6-0/200 10/19/83 CAN 7 Wsh '02 (1/17)
11 Martin Hanzal (C) L 6-6/236 2/20/87 CZE 4 Phx '05 (1/17)
52 Brett Hextall (RW) R 5-10/176 4/2/88 USA 0-R Phx '08 (6/159)
28 Lauri Korpikoski (W/C) L 6-1/200 7/28/86 FIN 4 NYR '04 (1/19)
22 Daymond Langkow (C) L 5-10/181 9/27/76 CAN 15 TB '95 (1/5)
39 Brett MacLean (RW/LW) R 6-1/200 12/24/88 CAN 1-R Phx '07 (2/32)
21 Andy Miele (C/LW) L 5-8/175 4/15/88 USA 0-R S-Phx '11
43 Marc Pouliot (C/RW) R 6-2/193 5/22/85 CAN 6 Edm '03 (1/22)
14 Taylor Pyatt (LW/RW) L 6-4/228 8/19/81 CAN 10 NYI '99 (1/8 )
58 Jordan Szwarz (RW) R 5-11/189 5/14/91 CAN 0-R Phx '09 (4/97)
37 Raffi Torres (LW) L 6-0/208 10/8/81 CAN 9 NYI '00 (1/5)
50 Antoine Vermette (C/LW) L 6-1/198 7/20/82 CAN 7 Ott '00 (2/55)
17 Radim Vrbata (RW) R 6-1/194 6/13/81 CZE 9 Col '99 (7/212)
50 Matt Watkins (LW/RW) L 5-10/180 11/22/86 CAN 0-R Dal '05 (5/160)
54 Ethan Werek (C) L 6-1/189 6/7/91 CAN 0-R NYR '09 (2/47)
13 Ray Whitney (LW) R 5-10/180 5/8/72 CAN 19 SJ '91 (2/23)

No DEFENSEMEN S HT/WT Birthdate Country Exp. Drafted

33 Adrian Aucoin R 6-2/215 7/3/73 CAN 16 Van '92 (5/117)
23 Oliver Ekman-Larsson L 6-2/190 7/17/91 SWE 1 Phx '09 (1/6)
57 Maxim Goncharov R 6-3/215 6/15/89 RUS 0-R Phx '07 (5/123)
16 Rostislav Klesla L 6-3/223 3/21/82 CZE 10 CBJ '00 (1/4)
53 Derek Morris R 6-0/215 8/24/78 CAN 13 Cgy '96 (1/13)
- Connor Murphy R 6-3/190 3/26/93 USA 0-R Phx '11 (1/20)
32 Michal Rozsival R 6-1/212 9/3/78 CZE 10 Pit '96 (4/105)
2 David Rundblad R 6-2/190 10/8/90 SWE 0-R StL '09 (1/17)
6 David Schlemko L 6-1/196 5/7/87 CAN 3 S-Phx '07
26 Michael Stone R 6-3/200 6/7/90 CAN 0-R Phx '08 (3/69)
20 Chris Summers L 6-2/209 2/5/88 USA 1-R Phx '06 (1/29)
3 Keith Yandle L 6-1/190 9/9/86 USA 5 Phx '05 (4/105)

No GOALTENDERS C HT/WT Birthdate Country Exp. Drafted
79 Louis Domingue R 6-3/180 3/6/92 CAN 0-R Phx '10 (5/138 )
1 Jason LaBarbera L 6-3/234 1/18/80 CAN 7 NYR '98 (3/66)
35 Justin Pogge L 6-3/204 4/22/86 CAN 1-R Tor '04 (3/90)
41 Mike Smith L 6-4/218 3/22/82 CAN 5 Dal '01 (5/161)

INJURED RESERVE
No NAME S HT/WT Birthdate Country Exp. Drafted
44 Kurt Sauer (D) L 6-4/222 1/16/81 USA 7 Col '00 (3/88

http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/roster.cgi?Phx

[madootra]

a sense of humor wouldn't hurt you either.

Physician, heal thyself......LOL

I guess it's too much to ask about active rosters...which is 23 right now.

And, to your point...even with YOUR numbers, East Alaskans only make up barely over half of rosters....which even in Toronto wouldn't reach the level of "Heavily". But, carry on......

[DennisT]

Point in time means little. The trendline from 20 years ago would be interesting to see. Not that I'm expecting you to provide it.

[Rob F]

vitriolic criticism aside Packy, Team Ikea lost because they were outmuscled by a younger, faster team with far more grit, the Swedes simply couldn't match Nashville's physicality. As for Weber, he respsoned to the slash then crosscheck from behind by Zetterberg with honorable hand-to-hand combat, sadly Hank wilted when taken to task, you should let it go.

Last, forced to drop the "HAMMER" early this year but here it is, surprise that the remaining 8 teams left in the playoffs are heavily stocked with Canadians, just the facts. Remember it's a game by Canadians, primarily for Canadians and a few Yanks residing in civilized states south of the 49th parallel! Wherever a player draws a paycheck Packy matters little, Canadians will be delivering another champinship and you are welcome. 8)

BTW 4 of the last 7 Stanley Cup Finals were played by teams that just happened to be domiciled in Canada.

Phoenix Coyotes:
CDN 24
USA 5
CZE 4
SWE 2
RUS 1
FIN 1
DEN 1

LA Kings:
CDN 15
USA 7
SWE 0
SLO 1
RUS 2

St. Louis Blues
CDN 17
USA 5
CZE 2
SWE 1
RUS 1
SVK 1

Philadelphia Flyers
CDN 17
USA 5
CZE 3
SWE 3
RUS 2
DEN 1
FIN 1

Nashville Predators
CDN 11
USA 8
SWE 2
BLR 2
RUS 1
SUI 1
FIN 1
CZE 1

New York Rangers
CDN 11
USA 9
SWE 3
RUS 1
UKR 1
NOR 1

Washington Capitols
CDN 13
USA 4
SWE 3
RUS 2
CZE 3

NJ Devils
CDN 9
USA 7
SWE 4
CZE 3
RUS 2
UKR 1
LTU 1

http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/.../teamindex.cgi

What you're pointing out, then, is that the U.S is quickly filling up with defectors from Canadia, eh?

Maybe we put the fence up on the wrong border...

[*JD*]

vitriolic criticism aside Packy, Team Ikea lost because they were outmuscled by a younger, faster team with far more grit, the Swedes simply couldn't match Nashville's physicality. As for Weber, he respsoned to the slash then crosscheck from behind by Zetterberg with honorable hand-to-hand combat, sadly Hank wilted when taken to task, you should let it go.

Last, forced to drop the "HAMMER" early this year but here it is, surprise that the remaining 8 teams left in the playoffs are heavily stocked with Canadians, just the facts. Remember it's a game by Canadians, primarily for Canadians and a few Yanks residing in civilized states south of the 49th parallel! Wherever a player draws a paycheck Packy matters little, Canadians will be delivering another champinship and you are welcome. 8)

BTW 4 of the last 7 Stanley Cup Finals were played by teams that just happened to be domiciled in Canada.

Phoenix Coyotes:
CDN 24
USA 5
CZE 4
SWE 2
RUS 1
FIN 1
DEN 1

LA Kings:
CDN 15
USA 7
SWE 0
SLO 1
RUS 2

St. Louis Blues
CDN 17
USA 5
CZE 2
SWE 1
RUS 1
SVK 1

Philadelphia Flyers
CDN 17
USA 5
CZE 3
SWE 3
RUS 2
DEN 1
FIN 1

Nashville Predators
CDN 11
USA 8
SWE 2
BLR 2
RUS 1
SUI 1
FIN 1
CZE 1

New York Rangers
CDN 11
USA 9
SWE 3
RUS 1
UKR 1
NOR 1

Washington Capitols
CDN 13
USA 4
SWE 3
RUS 2
CZE 3

NJ Devils
CDN 9
USA 7
SWE 4
CZE 3
RUS 2
UKR 1
LTU 1

http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/.../teamindex.cgi

NHL Hockey in the USA: Taking foreign born players and making them better since 1993.

(Kind of like how Michigan does with ohooians)

[Rocky Bleier]

I loved the Canadiens of the 70s, especially when they beat the Broad Street Bullies. But there's no way that Lafleur was a better skater than Orr, Coffey, and Fedorov.

[Mike]

Point in time means little. The trendline from 20 years ago would be interesting to see. Not that I'm expecting you to provide it.

Good question, Dennis. I was wondering about this myself. Here's a link to someone who did the research (as of 2009). I didn't bother to double check the work but he provides sources on nhl.com to do so if anyone chooses.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090104181205AAfK5W5

Currently
To date (2008-2009), 785 players have played in the NHL this season
410 are Canadian (52.2%)
173 are American (22.04%)
202 are other (25.73%)


In 1997-98, 763 players played at least one game in the NHL
464 were Canadian (60.81%)
126 were American (16.51%)
173 were Other (22.67%)

In 1979-1980, 658 players played at least one game in the NHL
553 were Canadian (84.04%)
64 were American (9.72%)
41 were Other

In 1966-67, 179 players played at least one game in the NHL
173 were Canadian (96.65%)
3 were American (1.68%)
1 was Slovakia/Canadian (0.56%)
1 was English/Canadian (0.56%)
1 was Polish/Canadian (0.56%)

The highest rate of increase of any country has been the United States.

[Mike]

So how are we doing on our picks anyway? I think I went 4-4 in the first round. Knew I should have taken Phoenix over Chicago because Smith has been on fire the last couple months but I just couldn't bring myself to pick a team that has never won a single playoff series.

I think it'll be the Rangers and Flyers in for the East in what should be an outstanding series. Lundqvist will be the difference as the Rangers advance to the finals.

The West is superior in all phases, IMO. Any of the 4 remaining teams could will the whole damn thing but I'm taking Kings over Preds in the West final.

SCF: LA over NY.

[madootra]

Mike....you did go 4-4.....everyone else (but me, went 3-5). I went a sucktacular 1-7!

[WingsFan]

I thought you were taller than that PackFan.

Im just messing with ya OP ;-) You sure have been grumpy since cindy was knocked out.

I loved the Canadiens of the 70s, especially when they beat the Broad Street Bullies. But there's no way that Lafleur was a better skater than Orr, Coffey, and Fedorov.

As a boy in the late 70s I knew all the great Montreal teams and Toronto too, as I watched hockey Night in Canada every Saturday. The Red Wings only had about 20 games on tv at one time. I never seen Orr but Fedorov was probably the faster skater I ever seen.

At this point I don't really mind who wins. I guess I would like the Rangers since they are an original 6, Phoenix and Nashville meh

[Mike]

I like the Rangers, too. Pulling for the Blues to come out of the West then Nashville.

[DennisT]

Interesting, Mike. Thanks. Sorta what I was expecting.

Slip Sliding Away - Paul Simon.

[Optimus Prime]

Nah Packy just a little fun, can't believe Shanahan took that pic? LA / Philly SCF. Although Nashville is getting good goaltending too.

[WingsFan]

LOL OP I just got the joke! Wooosh!

[Mike]

Not surprising that Shanny is a good sport.

Phoenix is looking really good right now but the series doesn't start until the home team loses a game. Nashville will be a mad house (and I have to admit I kinda like the maize-out thing they do).