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  • Originally posted by WM Wolverine View Post
    Hoke already mentioned they did apply for DG's redshirt.
    Do we have a copy? This would be something a good journalist would have FOI'ed, yes? I'm aware of the talk. I've seen no hard evidence that a red shirt was actually applied for. Gardner has been mum.
    Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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    • Just Googled it. ESPN has a story quoting Hoke in Nov. that a redshirt was applied for for Gardner. It's googled, it must be true.

      Seriously, no reason to doubt a Hoke statement but maybe he knows something about the approval process and how it's going that we don't. I still think this weird ass deal for Speight signals a low likelihood, I'll call it then, that Garder has more than one year left.
      Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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      • They've been clear all along they only want 1 QB in this class and the only QB they offered was Speight. Concerns me too considering some of the elite '14 QB's were very interested (a lot of peoples #1/#2 QB, Cornwell's tweets sound like he was really expecting a M offer) and they took someone with nowhere near the 'rep' of other options... Shane Morris & Devin Gardner allow me to not be too worried about this decision but we'll see if the coaches were right on this one.

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        • Looking at the depth chart, we'll be awfully young next year:


          I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.

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          • This is an awesome recruiting class! Credit the coaches folks, they are the reason these kids have signed with UM! Go Blue!!

            scroll down and watch the inside Michigan football video.

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            • So, then Borges has recruited and signed a mid-level prospect at QB for the 2014 class. They will not take another QB in that 2014 class. That's pretty scary.

              Scenario (1): Borges is a genius. Gardner excels in 2013 and gets a redshirt senior season. Morris redshirts in 2013. Competition at QB heats up, Morris beats out DG in 2014 and is as good as advertised, 2014-2017. Speight is a perfect fit in the emerging Borges offense and is developed into a Joe Flacco type to run it in 2018 and beyond.

              Scenario (2): Borges is Borges. Gardner struggles/doesn't get a redshirt senior season in 2014, Morris loses his redshirt by playing and is not as good as advertised/Borges is not that great in developing QBs. Speight is John Navvarian or David Conian, doesn't really develop into anything special and M settles in at mediocrity for a decade (again).

              You choose based on your view of the probability of reality being behind door number 1 or 2.
              Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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              • “Until I die, I’m gonna be a Buckeye fan even though I’m going (to Michigan). When we play (OSU) I’m gonna still bring my ‘A’ game. But, I love Ohio State.” -- Reon Dawson
                Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                • Assuming you see the field...
                  I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.

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                  • Somehow, I think that that attitude/opinion will change over his time at UM.

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                    • Perhaps the coaching staff wants a QB who won't mind being a backup to Shane Morris? A developmental kid who won't pout if he doesn't get the job.
                      I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.

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                      • We'll see how young Mr. Reon Dawson feels after his first visit to the snake pit in 2014.

                        If he starts with the Justina Boren act, maybe it would be best to cut him loose.
                        "in order to lead America you must love America"

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                        • Great way to endear yourself to your teammates.
                          I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.

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                          • heck, cut him now and get another 2014 QB

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                            • Originally posted by Rocky Bleier View Post
                              Perhaps the coaching staff wants a QB who won't mind being a backup to Shane Morris? A developmental kid who won't pout if he doesn't get the job.
                              Good god I hope not.
                              To be a professional means that you don't die. - Takeru "the Tsunami" Kobayashi

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                              • Even if that's the case, they should have at least had the necessary discussions with the incoming guys and wait and see who stayed interested.

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