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  • You're not committed if you're visiting others schools. I don't know what to make of Poggi, Bama was a contender for his services before he committed; Poggi used to claim he just wanted to visit a 'friend' that goes there. Now they (Poggi and his pops) won't speak to recruiting insiders who they used to talk to frequently. Good thing I feel Maurice Hurst DT is arguably M's most underrated recruit.

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    • Originally posted by WM Wolverine View Post
      You're not committed if you're visiting others schools.
      I agree, but "you're not committed" isn't the same thing as "GFY, we don't want you now", which is what it sounds like this staff did with Pharoh Brown and now Ward.

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      • And with Dawson, who is now a Wolverine. Dunn wasn't being secretive about it. It seems to me that the active ingredient in the banishings is not being honest about it. As long as they are honest, there seems to be wiggle room.

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        • Originally posted by Rocky Bleier View Post
          I love how "Insiders" are believed to know the thoughts of a high school kid and his family.
          I get you point, but that info is mainly from Alabama 'insiders' who get that feeling from being around the program. It's no different than 'fans' discussing and criticising Hoke's 'policy'.

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          • I like the policy, its not asking too much. Either your in or your not.

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            • Originally posted by hack View Post
              And with Dawson, who is now a Wolverine. Dunn wasn't being secretive about it. It seems to me that the active ingredient in the banishings is not being honest about it. As long as they are honest, there seems to be wiggle room.
              Dawson is the outlier. Most talented guys aren't going to be so in love with Michigan that the recruitment will survive the player being told to hit the road. Michigan doesn't have the demographics to only recruit guys like that. And it's still early in the process. It's not like we're talking about running out of spots in the '14 class already.

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              • Originally posted by The Oracle View Post
                I get you point, but that info is mainly from Alabama 'insiders' who get that feeling from being around the program. It's no different than 'fans' discussing and criticising Hoke's 'policy'.

                I suppose if a kid's reaction isn't what one may expect, one may get that impression. I do put a lot of credence into what Sam Webb says because I've learned to trust him. But when a kid and his family go silent, it's hard to believe that "insiders" know what's going on. Guess it depends on who they are.
                I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.

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                • Too many kids secure a spot somewhere only to look around for something better. Teams get tired of being played. I sincerely believe that's what the Pittman kid did to Michigan State last year.
                  I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.

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                  • Originally posted by Hannibal View Post
                    Dawson is the outlier. Most talented guys aren't going to be so in love with Michigan that the recruitment will survive the player being told to hit the road. Michigan doesn't have the demographics to only recruit guys like that. And it's still early in the process. It's not like we're talking about running out of spots in the '14 class already.
                    While I agree in general, the sample size is too small to call Dawson an outlier.

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                    • Denzel Ward isn't a big loss, he's replaceable. High upside guy that's a long way from filling his potential. M has done well on the OL and shouldn't have major issues filling his spot with someone similar in talent...

                      Poggi would be missed dearly, he's going to be a beast in a couple years and hopefully it's for the Wolverines.

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                      • I think no news is good news with Poggi. Everyone, including Poggi himself, has gone silent on the matter. Before he went silent, he insisted that he was still committed to Michigan. So, I'll assume that nothing has changed.

                        Worst case scenario would be if he were to wait until signing day, and announce a flip at that time. That would be a pretty mean-spirited way to deal with Coach Hoke, and I don't understand why he'd do something like that. But again, he's a 17 year old kid, and predicting their actions can be difficult. I've raised a couple of them, and this I know for a fact.

                        I hope he comes to Michigan, but I won't want Hoke and his staff fired if Poggi flips.
                        "The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, .. I'd worn them for weeks, and they needed the air"

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                        • No news is not good news. No news, in this situation, means the recruit is thinking about it. There are 3 options -- 1, the recruit announces on Monday/Tuesday, "I'm still committed" -- 2, the recruit says nothing, and 3, the recruit flips.

                          So, at least he hasn't flipped. But the no news thing is meh news, at best.

                          FYI, I don't expect him to switch.
                          Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                          Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                          • We don't even know if he met with anyone while there. We just know he was in Tuscaloosa, correct me if I'm wrong. In that case there's less expectation of a formal statement after the fact.

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                            • No news might mean that the kid was never reconsidering his committment to begin with, which is the most likely explanation in this case. This looks like somewhat of a non story at this time.

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                              • That's my take too.

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