UM Football Recruiting - by WM Wolverine

[DaGeezer]

I don’t know. Filling holes through the portal is probably going to be essential to winning. As long as you don’t have too many to fill. Ohio State isn’t making much use of it and it’s an issue.

Well, OSU doesn't need the portal.

Before yesterday's de-commitment of Riola, OSU had the # 1 and # 2 overall players in the 2024 class. Their recruiting is way better than any other B10 team. Imagine, recently, chasing away both Joe Burrows and Jameson Williams and not missing a beat.

I'd like to know how NIL is figuring into these portal transfers. I doubt if real stars ever transfer. But are these new guys getting NIL money? Bet they are. I certainly hope the NCAA passes a rule where the amount of NIL money paid to players has to be itemized and made public. I'd like to know how much Brice Young or CJ Stroud made this year. I'd like to see how much Hunter Dickenson is making this year compared to what he could make in the G-League.

[Jeff Buchanan]

I'd like to know how NIL is figuring into these portal transfers.

Right. These are private deals and can't be FOIA'ed. We'll never know for sure, so forget it. Supposedly, "collectives" are getting increased scrutiny by the NCAA. Nice try idiots. The NCAA can't get away with this. Any attempt to limit athletes from getting NIL deals, no matter how they are obtained, is going to run afoul of the June 2021 USSC Court ruling in NCAA v. Alston.

I don't know the legal landscape that well but I think the only way to try to regulate NIL is going to have to come from the US Congress. Some 25+ states, if I recall that number correctly, have passed state laws regulating NIL but, according to one article I read, none of them do much to create uniformity or advance some level of fairness to prevent team A from having more money from boostes to make NIL deals than team B with obvious consequences. Frankly, you deal with it, and there are other ways to attract portal players.

Many who post here have advocated for contracts. There are some of those already in place but, once again, what those contracts can actually do are going to be governed by labor law. That's lead to a lot of tip-toeing and that has produced what amounts to shitty, mostly unenforceable contract language - like if you accept this NIL deal you are obligated to play for X many years and here's the table of penalties if you fail to abide by the terms of the contract (which, BTW, cannot be written on the basis of a student athletes performance).

Regardless of NIL deals, and the likelihood that athletes will rightly pursue the most lucrative and least restrictive deals, attracting players to join team A over team B has got to have a lot to do with how a player sees his NFL stock rise playing for team A or team B. IMO (YMMV), relationships with position coaches and how a position coach fares in getting players to the NFL and at what draft pick level, may be a major driver, possibly THE major driver of a transfer portal athletes choice. It gets down to choices like this: I can go to team A and get a 7 figure NIL deal for 2 years or I can go to team B, get only a 5 or 6 figure NIL, deal but at the end of my two years of remining eligibility, I could be a first round draft pick and get this:

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Certainly, you have to win championships and get the exposure afforded to players that play on teams that do that. So win then it's build-a-franchise sort of approach. My bet is that Jim Harbaguh's NFL experience gives him a slight advantage, say, for example, over Kirby Smart. When someone asks, why is Michigan getting the most out of the portal compared to other programs with equal or better win percentages, CFP appearances and Bowl experience, it could be because JH knows how to build-a-franchise. WIth the advent of the portal he may see recruiting a class full of 5* as less important that grabbing players who have demonstrated the kind of skills M needs to build and fill out it's roster.

[WingsFan]

Safe to say it's dog eat dog right now and Michigan is stepping up with free agent transfers

Another day another transfer to Michigan (actually last night)

Michigan lands Stanford offensive line transfer Drake Nugent. Rumors Harbaugh has been talking to David Shaw to help with these guys (?)

#63rd player in the transfer portal. Started for Stanford 2 years at center.

Michigan is looking at a couple of others that are ranked inside the top 100. Indiana TE (AJ Barner - #37), and possibly 1-2 CB/DB --- North Carolina CB Tony Grimes (#47)?

Hearing some possibly big NIL news coming also (?)

[Cody_Russell]

Harbaugh handling the transfer portal like NFL free agency given his experience. Love to see it.

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AJ Barner would be tempting. Huge TE target. He scored the early TD vs Ohio State if I remember correctly...

EDIT: Yes, here it is:

[Hannibal]

I don’t know. Filling holes through the portal is probably going to be essential to winning. As long as you don’t have too many to fill. Ohio State isn’t making much use of it and it’s an issue.

Filling the occasional hole, absolutely. But you can't transfer portal your way past recruiting classes that don't crack the Top 10. This will become evident in about 2024 when our crappy 2023 class is called on to contribute.

[Hannibal]

We just landed a 4* OL from Ohio (Luke Hamilton). No offer from OSU though, apparently. We need for that 2024 class to be a really really good one.

After two consecutive playoff appearances, we should have blue chippers lining up to play for us. That we don't needs to be investigated and fixed.

[Whitley]

I believe I read last year Dickinson got 37k in NIL money and it was a big catalyst in getting him to stay for another year.

[Hannibal]

37K? For real? That's all? Dayum

[Hannibal]

We also flipped Hayden Moore from Nebraska this past weekend.

We're really loading up on the three-stars for 2023.

[DaGeezer]

I believe I read last year Dickinson got 37k in NIL money and it was a big catalyst in getting him to stay for another year.

I think he got more than that. https://www.on3.com/db/hunter-dickinson-48425/nil/

If he didn't make about a million he would be better off going to the g-league

[DaGeezer]

Here is another chart that is interesting. It shows average NIL earnings for the recruits of top recruiting classes by school. I don't think Texas is getting its money's worth.

https://www.on3.com/db/rankings/consensus-team/football/2023/

[THE_WIZARD_]

They have plenty of oil money to burn...until it runs out...lol...

[Hannibal]

Here is another chart that is interesting. It shows average NIL earnings for the recruits of top recruiting classes by school. I don't think Texas is getting its money's worth.

https://www.on3.com/db/rankings/cons...football/2023/

We're getting out-NIL'ed by TCU. Only $20 K? That wouldn't even cover Mary Sue Coleman's liquor budget. No wonder our 2023 recruiting class sucks so much dick.

[iam416]

Honestly, those numbers seem waaaay light. Miami, in particular, is splashing around way more money than that.

Anyway, the Portal actually fits in really well with HARBAUGH!!!!'s team construction. He core of his team are not really NFL draftable. They stay the full 5 years (or 6 w/ the Covid year). Then you end up with 23-yr olds playing 19-20 yr olds. And the portal fits that to a tee. What he's lacked is the sprinkling of elite talent that you absolutely need. McCarthy and Edwards and Will Johnson are definitely NFL players. And Corum, of course. Mazi Smith, too, especially if they can continue to postpone sentencing. Heh.

But that's certainly his OL approach. He's not starting young 'uns. It's a nice approach to offset his generally meh recruiting efforts. It took awhile to implement because, well, you need long-term program kids AND the portal just came about. But it's there.

He's still always going to need to get that QB. And that will always be a concern. And maybe a few more elite players that you just can't scoop up in the portal. But as a backbone, his approach is a nice way to combat significantly more talented teams.

[Big J]

Hayden Moore 6'3" 220 lb linebacker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sImlGDE2kQ8&t=72s