UM Football Recruiting - by WM Wolverine

[hack]

Hoke would have been aware of Patterson but not fully aware.

[Rocky Bleier]

Harbaugh's roster talent was concentrated in a huge junior class when he arrived, and his initial class was very unimpressive. He has suffered from an inability to plug in a highly efficient QB while he waits for the young ones to mature, and, of equal importance, a failure to recruit the OT position. I'm just going to consider last season as his first and see how he builds from here. The fact that he's pursuing these Ole Miss players shows that he's still trying to plug roster holes.

[Jeff Buchanan]

...... the on-field performance in his 3y as HC at Michigan has, IMO, been poor. M wins games against weaker competition, struggles with well prepared teams of lesser talent, hasn't won a game yet v. a top 10 team and has one win, ONE, v. MSU/osu combined.

Personally I think that sucks and doesn't meet my expectations.

I do think he's been victimized (you may find that term inappropriate - tough shit) by poor OL and QB play. It's hard to put a finger on why. Maybe all those 2* and 3* Hoke saddled the program with contributes; maybe Frey, Drevno and Pep Hamilton and the crazy play calling arrangement they have sucks.

So, there's been a bunch of feelings ball comments at the M web sites I follow about JH's demeanor of late. He's got this sort-pf crazy exuberance that characterized him before he realized his football team, in particular the offense, isn't all that good. He was a sour-puss after the PSU ass-railing and downright grumpy and non-communicative after the osu loss.

I think the potential for the Patterson/Jefferson combo transfer has him looking up. It should.

[Cody_Russell]

You might be right! It's weird that 3 seasons in and Harbaugh is still kind of an unknown quantity as far as the product on the field.

Known* quantity.
Beat the bad teams.
Lose to the good teams.

EDIT: yeah, what Jeff said ^^^

[whodean]

Hey, if you can let 4-5 fringe upper-classmen go via transfers etc. and replace then with these Ole Miss kids who have a couple of years of experience and were all 4-5 star recruits...win/win and maybe doesn't hurt the traditional recruiting class.

[Jeff Buchanan]

I hate repeating myself ...... M is is probably getting THREE guys from Ole Miss. If there are 7 guys wanting to transfer, too bad, there's no room.

Those three are going to be Patterson, Jefferson and Anderson.

Brain has a good break down of how the puzzle pieces fit together and why there are going to be only THREE transfers ...... unless the 4th is OT Little and that, reportedly isn't going to happen .... the Rashan Gary family is friends with the Little family .... Mom Gary has told those asking, "Little isn't interested." pretty good source.

http://mgoblog.com/content/recruiting-refocus-defense

[whodean]

one glance at the roster should be sufficient evidence to discount a mass transfer of that magnitude.

Sounds like an opinion.

Even qualifies with:

that is certainly a possibility with so many borderline fifth-years. It's a delicate situation.

[hack]

I think a good look at the numbers suggests there's room for 3, I agree. And Little if he wants to come.

[WM Wolverine]

More attrition expected but the room for 20+ in '18 includes some expected departures.

[Da Geezer]

I think a good look at the numbers suggests there's room for 3, I agree. And Little if he wants to come.

I agree. And as far as I am concerned, Little would be the priority over Patterson.

Any way we can differentiate Shay Patterson and the young man Harbs is recruiting out of Arizona, lineman named Patterson? I suggest we call him PattersonAZ.

[WingsFan]

Little is going to Oklahoma from everything I have seen

[Jeff Buchanan]

Here's your visitors list for today. There's some talk at mgo that Michael Barrett, 3* athlete
from GA with an offer list that belies his 3*, will commit this weekend.

http://touch-the-banner.com/visitors-december-7-9-2017/

[Cody_Russell]

Michael Barrett, 3* athlete

The next Peppers/ Hudson? VIPER.
Skills positions on offense are crowded. Particularly RB ... Higdon, Evans, Walker, Samuels, Turner, Taylor, and Haskins. The idea of Barrett on offense seems like a slower Curtis Samuel, which is part RB. Do it all.

[Jeff Buchanan]

On Michael Barrett ...... I've not seen anything that suggests how the staff actually thinks this guy might be used. We have no idea what those recruiting him are saying about his role. So, to me it's a head scratcher but we've seen this kind of thing before with Harbaugh. Recruits guys who he envisions as having multiple roles.

That's fine when you have 30+ spots, have filled all your needs and want to take on a guy with athletic potential who you'll see what you got when he starts working out and practicing.

2018 Class? I'm skeptical about the value of taking scholarships out of the pool on a guy who you don't know how he's going to be used when you've got a small class coming in/limited scholarships available.

The end result is that you're likely to have more guys committed than you actually have spots for. Then you've got the issue of committable commits, over signing and all the negative press that goes along with that approach let alone the screw job something like this can be on the recruits themselves.

I don't like this but, it is how the recruiting game is played these days and right now, given NCAA rules, programs doing the recruiting seem to me to be at a disadvantage. High demand recruits can play programs that want them in different ways - there are lots of situations where M has been played. OT, Devry Hamilton comes to mind. So, in a sense, I guess we shouldn't be too concerned about these kinds of outcomes when committed recruits get asked to look somewhere else; their offer is no longer available. Tit for Tat sort of thing I guess.

[Cody_Russell]

Well done students, well done.

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