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  • ``Q&A: Manning's "happy feet" don't mean he's rattled'', says this headline. So apparently Peyton Manning is ``letting adversity limit his will to try''. And of course you can google Tom Brady and Happy Feet and you will get 5.79 million results. So it appears that Brady as well lets adversity limit his will to try.

    Or maybe whoDean has never never heard of the concept of a QB getting happy feet when he gets shit protection?

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    • Happy feet doesn't necessarily indicate a bad quarterback.

      They are taught to keep their feet moving so that when they spot the receiver they can then set their feet and throw to any part of the field. Its actually a good technique. And, considering Brady and Manning's numbers, you can't argue with the results.
      "in order to lead America you must love America"

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      • Thanks for missing the point.

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        • You're welcome.

          I aim to please.

          Sometimes I miss the target,.. but I give a good effort.
          "in order to lead America you must love America"

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          • I wish Gardner's brain worked as quickly as Brady's happy feet.

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            • It doesn't. Because Gardner apparently is made of weakness and sorrow.

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                Yeah, happy feet isn't Gardner's problem so much as decision making and the fact that at certain points it looks like he gives up early.
                Atlanta, GA

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                • Originally posted by whodean View Post
                  Yeah, happy feet isn't Gardner's problem so much as decision making and the fact that at certain points it looks like he gives up early.
                  I think it's actually the opposite. He holds onto the ball in an ill-fated attempt to make plays when they're not there. I heard a stat this week that the first six games of the season he was getting rid of the ball in 2.6 seconds and the last 3 games he's holding it for an average of 4.6 seconds. That's crazy. Nobody can block for that long. Granted he's flushed out of the pocket and running for his life but you simply cannot run around like it's backyard football and expect to make plays at this level.

                  They need to put him in shotgun with a couple receivers running short routes where he can set his feet and throw in 2 seconds. The slow developing plays are a killer. Having him under center only wastes precious time while he back peddles. By the time he tries to set his feet he has to start running for his life. Then when it looks like he might be able to pull something out of his ass, it takes him far too long to make the right decision and it's a 12 yard loss. Please, for the love of Michigan football, put this kid in a position to succeed. He's not terrible, he's not a quitter. He just needs a playbook suited to his talents.

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                  • ...and his offensive lines.

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                    • They have talent?

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                      • 1.) Mike is right about the shotgun formation. If we had a center who could reliably snap the ball to a shotgun QB, then at least Gardner could see where the blitz is coming from.

                        2.) Time to begin hoping that Satan moves to Texas.

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                        • No reason for Saban to move to Texas. Bama is as good as it gets, he's dominating the SEC and the talent in Bama and surrounding states (Florida, Georgia) is outstanding. Saban can also go most anywhere and snatch up 5-stars. He's already a legend at Bama.

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                          • Saban is surely one of the all-time best.
                            Atlanta, GA

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                            • Agree with Mike. If you want to blame him for rushing his throws because the other team is getting pressure, you have to recognize that that's every QB. But ultimately we're talking about a player who, to a fault, refuses to give up on plays. And yet he's being accused of ``letting adversity limit his will to try''.

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                              • Originally posted by Mike View Post
                                I think it's actually the opposite. He holds onto the ball in an ill-fated attempt to make plays when they're not there. I heard a stat this week that the first six games of the season he was getting rid of the ball in 2.6 seconds and the last 3 games he's holding it for an average of 4.6 seconds. That's crazy. Nobody can block for that long. Granted he's flushed out of the pocket and running for his life but you simply cannot run around like it's backyard football and expect to make plays at this level.
                                A big part of that is Gardner having it drilling into him he cannot throw picks like he did in the first six games.
                                Atlanta, GA

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