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**iam416** · January 27, 2016, 08:58 PM

Speaking of high end...don't sleep on Georgia. Eason, Nauta and Hardman and probably Brown...4 top 20 kids on offense! And for my money, Hardman, used correctly, is the best offensive player out there.

**WM Wolverine** · January 27, 2016, 09:00 PM

Really terrific athlete, like him more on defense. Should grow into a good linebacker. Certainly could use redshirt season to work on just one position.

**The Oracle** · January 27, 2016, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by Rocky Bleier View Post

247 has a story that quotes his mother saying they're visiting Clemson and Alabama this weekend. Has that changed?

He's going to be in Atlanta collecting some sort of award where he will meet with the Bama coaches. Then drive to Clemson for his official where, I've read, that is basically just to see family for the most part. Still an official obviously, so who knows, but I don't see much happening from that. Just glad Bama wasn't able to take him "into their lair".

**The Oracle** · January 27, 2016, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by WM Wolverine View Post

I believe it was Oracle who stated Ron Johnson and Brad Hawkins (teammates) are possible decommits, watch to see if they take a visit this upcoming weekend.

I saw somewhere that Hawkins but not qualify. He and Johns on are pretty tight at the hip.

**WM Wolverine** · January 27, 2016, 09:03 PM

Georgia's skill position talent is special. Agree on Hardman, Heisman potential if utilized properly.

**The Oracle** · January 27, 2016, 09:18 PM

Nick Eubanks has made it to town. Something to keep a look at outta the corner of your eye.

**WM Wolverine** · January 27, 2016, 09:37 PM

See more upside in him than Allen whose pretty talented himself.

**Jeff Buchanan** · January 27, 2016, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by iam416;1006532.

had run his course at SF. His defense, which made the team great, was on the down slope. And it still is. There was zero way they were making the playoffs this year...with HARBAUGH!!! Lombardi, Bellichek or anyone else.

Correct. My understanding is that Harbaugh wanted more control over player acquisition and never got it. That SF's incompetent front office never gave it to him, IMO, has a lot to do with their current predicament.

Originally posted by iam416;1006532.

........... my favorite comments were generally, "look at that tweet!....our coach has a spine!...no more walkover wins for OSU!".... (starting in 2016, I guess)........Buchanan put it best last year -- and I don't think I've ever uttered anything close to that phrase -- it's largely irrelevant, but I enjoy sassing about it (re Weber/OSU)...

Re the Harbugh tweet: I don't think anyone with a brain was predicting a win over urbz and osu. What we were predicting was that M under HARBAUGH!!! would compete versus its rivals, something M hadn't done in nearly a decade. We were right in one case and horribly wrong in another.

At this point, I think most of us probably like where M is right now with respect to our chances of beating both MSU and osu on a regular basis going forward. Rational thought requires inclusion of the idea that it takes a while to fix the train wreck that was M football prior to JH. Wth regard to the ass-railing osu laid on M in November, it also takes recognizing that osu was probably the best CFB team in 2015 and finally played up to its potential in AA. The gap is going to narrow. The reason for that is what HARBAUGH!!! is doing on the recruiting trail. Some may not like his tactics.

I've become a little Machiavellian here. Great battlefield commanders, at least the ones who maintained their integrity and are historically revered, played on the margins of what was considered within the rules of warfare at the time. I don't have a problem with JH's tactics here when the end result is establishing a solid edge over urbz/osu during the time we have the good fortune of having him as M's HC.

**iam416** · January 28, 2016, 08:13 AM

Really terrific athlete, like him more on defense. Should grow into a good linebacker. Certainly could use redshirt season to work on just one position.

Thanks, WM. I'm a little biased, but from my perspective every "athletic safety that will grow into walk off LB" is the "Darron Lee Recruit"...gotta have speed to play in space in your LBs...

I don't have a problem with JH's tactics here when the end result is establishing a solid edge over urbz/osu during the time we have the good fortune of having him as M's HC.

Not sure if that's a conditional statement or a prediction. HARBAUGH!!! is, of course, the best coach CFB, but UFM is ok, too. He HAS lost 27 games in his 14 seasons and the 27th loss was, obviously, disgraceful. So, he's definitely far from perfect. But, I think it may take some real doing to beat him regularly or establish a solid edge over him, whatever that may be. If anyone can do it, it's obviously HARBAUGH!!!!

**iam416** · January 28, 2016, 08:22 AM

Bama is supposedly telling recruits what the Florida schools used to do, don't announce till signing day so the competition wastes their resources trying to recruit them.

Yeah, they're the only school that can overtake LSU for #1. I still think it'll be LSU then Alabama, but shit, they Bama will probably sign at least 3 more 5* kids.

**Rocky Bleier** · January 28, 2016, 08:33 AM

Anyone heard anything about off the field issues for Brian Cole?

**Hannibal** · January 28, 2016, 08:38 AM

Very disappointing to lose Cole. One of the few promising members of what turned out to be a pretty disastrous recruiting class.

**iam416** · January 28, 2016, 08:51 AM

Related to Cole, from MGo, I understand that if M takes 30 kids (they're at 25), that will put them at 91 scholarship players (not including Glasgow or your kicker). They need to eventually get down to 85, but that's not the real issue. I think the real issue is getting down to 88 by NLOID. As I understand B10 rules, you can only oversign by 3 (relative to either the 85 or the 25). M has "backdated" enough kids for this class with EEs to make sure the 28 isn't an issue. So the 85 is the issue.

So, with Cole gone and with 25 commits coming in, they are sitting at 85. That means they can take 3 more per B10 rules if no one else leaves before signing day. I think.

WM -- is that your understanding? Or have I fucked it up?

If I'm right, then more will follow Cole in the very near future.

**drok** · January 28, 2016, 09:37 AM

This doesn't address the 88 issue, but this shows some possibilities of how we might be getting down to 85. Really walking the line on what I feel comfortable with:

Getting Back Down to 85 Scholarships | mgoblog

http://mgoblog.com/diaries/getting-back-down-85-scholarships

Per informal policy we won't discuss specific names.... Please review handy MGoTable for scholarships by year: With what is looking like 30 scholarships (and 31 players) in the 2016 class, UM will have a very young roster with 36% of players true freshman - up from 16% a year ago at this time. Harbaugh is basically trying to cram a 5 year time frame into 3 years with aggressive roster management. With the departures of a few 5th year seniors, plus Green & Henry, UM has 62 non freshman scholarships devoted.* Adding 30 scholarships to that takes you to 92 scholarships. # Players Eligibility 20* 1 yr 15 2 yr 17 3 yr 40 4 yr 92 *This does not include Ryan Glasgow who under most circumstances at most schools would certainly be given a scholarship his senior year, and Kenny Allen who at most places also would. Glasgow I guess you can make a case based on financial situation of family (well off parents, brother about to get NFL money) but based on merit certainly it's unusual to not get a scholarship as one of the top 8-10 best players on the team. In a world you give these 2 scholarships UM will be at 94 scholarships with only 85 allowed. The path to 85: 1) No scholarships for 5th year seniors Glasgow/Allen as discussed above. Keeps you at 92 2) Exit Brian Cole for off field troubles - I am only mentioning the specific name because Brian basically confirmed this in yesterday's Mgoboard post. Drops you to 91. 3) Exit a QB from any class. Even if Gentry goes to TE down the road you have 5 scholarship QBs with none being a senior. I assume one is going to depart to look for playing time even if if means sitting out a year. Drops you to 90. 4) Little used 5th year senior departures pre or post spring game. Call these Allen Gant types. These are the "easiest" to deal with as UM fulfilled its responsibility in giving a 4 year scholarship and player can easily move on to another FBS school without sitting out. There are 2 obvious candidates here who have played little to no meaningful time in their 4 years at UM. I am going to assume both "don't make the team" post spring game. Drops you to 88. ----------------------------------------- That's the easy part - the last 3 spots are not as easy to triangulate: 5) Contributing 5th year seniors. Call these Keith Heitzman types. You have 1 or 2 guys here who have played meaningful time, including 1 guy who did well in the Citrus Bowl who the dark edges of the internet say was a candidate to leave if he didn't show well. There is also one OL many have whispered would leave if he was not a starter but with Raulerson not coming here it would seem strange to see that exit for depth purposes but who knows. So in theory if these 3 fifth year seniors do depart you are 85 and you haven't done anything SEC-y. All these guys could find a landing spot immediately elsewhere although you lose some experienced depth on the roster. 6) Non 5th year seniors depart. This is the group where it gets squishy. You have multiple WRs and DBs (up to 4) who have played little to none in their career and are now upperclasmen. But not guys who could play immediately if they depart - unless like a Raulerson type they finished their degree in 3 years. If that is the case for any of the 4 it becomes less squishy. But you could also say they saw the writing on the wall, UM just didn't work out, etc etc. 7) A "surprise" out of the blue guy. This would be a Blake Countess type. ---------------------------------------------- So that's the path to 85 from 92. Obviously if you want to give Glasgow and Allen a scholarship you need to find another 2 guys.

**Prime2** · January 28, 2016, 09:40 AM

Any news on Keyson Camp, he de-committed for USC, said M was his best visit ever, blah, blah, blah?

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