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8-4 is pretty damn likely unless M has a ton of improvement at areas where there are significant question marks...
Sparty & Ohio State are really good, that's underselling Ohio State who are 14 point favorites (I think) in every game this season... Penn State and Utah are very solid and on the road, M splitting those two would be good. Minnesota, Northwestern & BYU are solid and could easily give M troubles...
I flop back and forth between 9-3 and 8-4. 8-4 should be the floor but this team has a lot of question marks (they were 5-7 last season) at the critical skill positions. If Utah & Penn State aren't as good as I fear, M could win 10 games but they'd have to nearly run the table against teams they are only marginally more talented or pull an upset of a team that returns a ton of talent from a top 5 ranked team from last season.
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I'm calling 10-2 with a win over OSU. Even Hoke played OSU tough, and by the time that game comes around Michigan will have almost a full season of incremental improvement. Michigan has shown up and behaved like a rival to OSU, but not yet to MSU. I know it's a very tall task to beat OSU this year, but I think the extra half a season of incremental improvement makes it a better bet than beating MSU.
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Originally posted by hack View PostI'm calling 10-2 with a win over OSU. Even Hoke played OSU tough, and by the time that game comes around Michigan will have almost a full season of incremental improvement. Michigan has shown up and behaved like a rival to OSU, but not yet to MSU. I know it's a very tall task to beat OSU this year, but I think the extra half a season of incremental improvement makes it a better bet than beating MSU.
Harbaugh did enough to win the Super Bowl in his 3rd year butfor countless examples of naked corruption by the officials, what an embarrassment to the NFL.
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College football is even worse. OSU lost to Penn St. last year, B1G sabotaged the replay booth before the game and wouldn't you know it, every single goddamn call went against Penn St. It was so egregious that the B1G publicly apologized for their corruption post-game.
You see, a 2-loss OSU to Vt & Penn. St. in the regular season means the B1G is excluded from the playoff and that can't happen.
Ohio St. Phantom interception.
All 126 NCAA college football teams get 25 seconds on the playclock to kick a field goal but not OSU. Both officials refused to blow the whistle and penalize Ohio and take them out of field goal range when time expired. Instead they were given 41 seconds to kick a phantom field goal.
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Don't understand the fear of Penn State. Our shittily coached team beat them last year. Now we are getting a huge coaching upgrade. Why do people expect them to get a better but not us?
I also think Minnesota is far more a Goofer lean than a toss up. They sort of whipped the bejesus out of M last year.
But, I get the sense from some that those wins are a foregone conclusion. HARBAUGH. Utah, Michigan State and Ohio State are the "toss-ups."Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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Originally posted by iam416 View PostWell, last season was more or less an even game dominated by offensive ineptitude. If you discount the garbage safety and the end of the game and flip homefield, that would make PSU roughly a 3 point favorite. So, if M improves this season by 3 points more than PSU does then there's still reason to believe it's a toss-up at HV. And that's where I am.Last edited by Hannibal; July 22, 2015, 09:54 AM.
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Originally posted by iam416 View PostI also think Minnesota is far more a Goofer lean than a toss up. They sort of whipped the bejesus out of M last year.
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In terms of competent game planning and developing, the bump should be similar to what OSU experienced from Fickell to Meyer. How useful was the 2011 season in predicting outcomes for the 2012 OSU team? The tough schedule will, of course, probably hide some of our improvement as there are two bona fide elite teams on our schedule this year and maybe a few others that we play that were as good as the best teams that OSU played in 2012 (Penn State and Michigan?).Last edited by Hannibal; July 22, 2015, 10:05 AM.
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Every road game is a tough one in the B10, M doesn't out talent any of Utah, Penn State or Minnesota. These games could go either way, none are close to a gimmie especially if you lose the turnover battle as M did so often last season...
IMO M has a higher ceiling than those three but M will need a lot more production from their skill position players than they received in '14 and actually win the turnover battle.
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Originally posted by WM Wolverine View PostEvery road game is a tough one in the B10, M doesn't out talent any of Utah, Penn State or Minnesota. These games could go either way, none are close to a gimmie especially if you lose the turnover battle as M did so often last season...
IMO M has a higher ceiling than those three but M will need a lot more production from their skill position players than they received in '14 and actually win the turnover battle.
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I see Penn State as a good bet to improve their 3-5 B10 mark as they return most everyone except Deion Barnes. They'll likely go 4-0 in OOC as they canceled any decent OOC when they got hit with sanctions. On a neutral field, I think M should win. On the road in Happy Valley? I think it's a toss-up and a long ways from a gimmie.
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Originally posted by froot loops View PostThe common theme is the Wolverines have a lot of talent but they were not coached properly. But shouldn't you have seen some flashes of talent? Really good players stick out even if their coaches are shite.Last edited by Hannibal; July 22, 2015, 10:58 AM.
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