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Alabama has a fine engineering program and graduates enjoy 100% employment. Michigan's engineering program is ranked higher, but I don't believe the rankings matter that much - especially as an undergrad - if they did, they would all play football at Stanford, Cal, or GaTech. Finally, there are few bluechippers who pursue engineering. I know of a handful and I follow recruiting pretty closely."The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln -
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Hand felt like Alabama's "engineering program" gave Bama the leg up against Michigan. Maybe he just wanted a free sauna membership.Comment
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Y'all were just out recruited on Hand. On his official visit here, he got to meet the dean of the college of engineering and had lunch with the civil engineering program chair.
At M he was just offered hookers and blow. That woulda worked, but the hookers were ugly and the blow was cut with too much baking soda."The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham LincolnComment
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Didn't help that Hoke reportedly was like "Nah, engineerings not for you!"
Btw, that wasn't a knock on the engine program at Bama. It's not as good as and but, I'm sure it's great. I'm a big believer that undergrad is pretty fungible for educating students. The differences in performance and learning are due to the students not the program. (But I essentially flunked out of Ms engine program, so that should give some perspective on my opinions)To be a professional means that you don't die. - Takeru "the Tsunami" KobayashiComment
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Alabama is well on their way to the 20th century!Comment
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What?Originally posted by SeattleLionsFan View Post"Your division isn't going through Green Bay it's going through Detroit for the next five years" - Rex RyanComment
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Sorry. Looks like it autocorrected M's to say "as"To be a professional means that you don't die. - Takeru "the Tsunami" KobayashiComment
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I always kind of roll my eyes at the stereotyping (or even the national rankings) that goes on in regards to schools and their educational programs. I don't care where you are going, all schools have good professors and bad ones as well and for the most part what you get out of an educational program depends mostly on how much work you put into it.
AAL: A'Shawn RobinsonComment
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SLF's comment about undergrad programs essentially being fungible is mostly correct. Curriculum, question banks, and teaching plans are generally canned and somewhat mandated by accrediting bodies in many programs.
Do some schools exercise more academic rigor by not offering curves, extra credit, and the like? Sure. Does it make a lot of difference in most academic coursework? No. The major variable is the student.
For state universities, I bristle at the exclusivity award that ranking agencies value. While, exclusivity is appropriate for professional coursework, it is not for general education courses (the so-called core curriculum) and a long list of non-professional degree paths because it gives a segment of our population a chance at a better life."The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham LincolnComment
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Correct. It's like saying Ohio State has better football coaches than another school because Ohio State produces more NFL talent. They may or may not, but the decisive factor in that metric is the input. Schools get ranked high; attract good students; output good students; build reputation. Etc.
It does start to matter in grad programs, especially STEM programs where there you are advanced enough that expertise in a specific research area matters -- as opposed to teaching basic organic chemistry.
Now, STFU.Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.Comment
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True. And Michigan, in particular, made a decision to downgrade their inputs in the name of diversity. When I was there, UM was top-five nationally. Now it is in the mid-30s.They may or may not, but the decisive factor in that metric is the input. Schools get ranked high; attract good students; output good students; build reputation. Etc.
Anyone care to opine about schools that have, over say the last 30 years, have risen in academic reputation. I'd say Texas and OSU have.Comment
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Geezer, I don't think that is true. So many of M's programs rank very high nationally. Law, business, medical, dentistry, engineering, business all rank in the top five in the country. M continues to be a great academic school. Just their football program is sub par.Comment
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Mustapha Mohammad announcing Friday.Comment
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