UM Football Recruiting - by WM Wolverine

[AlabamAlum]

Harris because a Bama commit in 2015, never officially changed that status, and stuck with it in the end.

He doesn't Twitter or Facebook and didn't have a "Hat Ceremony" or news conferences. If for nothing else, I like that fact about the kid.

[Hannibal]

I don't think it works. Like I said, it's just the excuse the kids use when they flip. That's why Urban and Saban don't do it..

Urban does it.

[AlabamAlum]

He did not do it at Florida at all. If he does it now, that's new.

[iam416]

Everyone thinks their program doesn't "negative recruit" and that everyone else does. The kids who commit to the school all sing the praises of how their coach "only sold them on that school" while occasionally pointing out how other coaches bad-mouthed schools.

The best programs don't generally have to do it. They sell themselves. As AA said, it doesn't work. Really doesn't.

I haven't really heard many recruits say UFM does it. I can't recall any. All I've heard is JH's "jive turkey" line which mentions no one and is remarkably self-serving. Franklin was pissed at the bulk of the B10 conference for "negative recruiting" on potential PSU sanctions.

Whatever.

[iam416]

He did not do it at Florida at all. If he does it now, that's new.

Correct. He spun a ton of bullshit -- how he pulled Shariff Floyd from Tressel....motherfucker...but it wasn't at all about OSU. But, HARBAUGH!!!! said this in December:

"A lot of this talk is coming from our enemies," he said. "From coaches who, and you know the names. You probably know the names of the top three that I'm referring to. They like to say (I'm leaving) to the media, they like to tell that to recruits and their families to try to manipulate them into going to another school besides Michigan.

"But we know them as jive turkeys."

So, there you go....

[Hannibal]

He did not do it at Florida at all. If he does it now, that's new.

He tried some shenanigans with Lloyd that one of our recruits Darryl Stonum (I think) called him out on.

Coaches got lots of mileage out of negatively recruiting against Lloyd and RichRod. Carr had to fend off rumors that he had Parkinson's.

[Hannibal]

Everyone thinks their program doesn't "negative recruit" and that everyone else does.

I'm sure that there are some schools that don't do it much. It's probably unwise to take that approach. I've got no problem with negative recruiting if it's true. If B1G coaches are not negatively recruiting against chronic oversigners by reminding recruits and moms that they could be culled in August, then they are stupid for that. I know that recruits tend to think that it couldn't be them, but you can't tell me that there aren't any recruits (or mom's) who wouldn't be swayed by that.

[AlabamAlum]

A friend of mine has a kid who was recruited by Florida under Urban. He was, "Here's where we see you, here are our facilities, note the Crystal footballs, here is where we see you playing, here is what you need to do to be successful. What do you think?"

Kid ended up at another school. Said they kept recruiting but never even mentioned the other schools, ever.

[hack]

I'm sure that there are some schools that don't do it much. It's probably unwise to take that approach. I've got no problem with negative recruiting if it's true. If B1G coaches are not negatively recruiting against chronic oversigners by reminding recruits and moms that they could be culled in August, then they are stupid for that. I know that recruits tend to think that it couldn't be them, but you can't tell me that there aren't any recruits (or mom's) who wouldn't be swayed by that.

Agree with all of that. On a case-by-case basis I'm sure everybody does it.

[Rocky Bleier]

I hope this means that O'Maury Samuels stops talking to the soon-to-be-departed Rich Rod.

[Hannibal]

Samuels should come to Michigan. He's not a 5'8" scatback who runs a 4.6 40 so he won't fit in with RichRod's offense.

[WingsFan]

Michigan recruiting knows no bounds with Jim Harbaugh at the helm

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2017/01/09/michigan-recruiting-knows-no-bounds-jim-harbaugh-helm/96349318/

[Wellington_beefhouser]

I'd take Oliver Martin if Nico Collins flakes.

[Hannibal]

I would too but from the sounds of it, we won't have that choice.

[WM Wolverine]

Agree on Lynn Bowden, but M wasn't interested for off the field reasons... M wanted Dotson but he went elsewhere due to depth chart allegedly... Concur with Sibley too, I'd gladly trade Kurt Taylor for him.