Around the Big Ten

[entropy]

JoeChristensenVerified account @JoeCStrib [ame="https://twitter.com/JoeCStrib/status/809538857591078912"]1h1 hour ago[/ame]Sources say #Gophers football players threatening to boycott bowl game to protest 10 suspended teammates:

[entropy]

Nicole Auerbach @NicoleAuerbach [ame="https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/809554794251780096"]9m9 minutes ago[/ame]
Nicole Auerbach Retweeted JoeChristensen
Can confirm this report for @USATODAYsports. Players plan to announce bowl boycott tonight.

[iam416]

Good. Really glad to see this. Hopefully they make some sort of racial bias play. Anything. Come after this process hard.

[AlabamAlum]

Boycotting the bowl is not a good look. Yikes.

[entropy]

I would guess most will not side with the players if they do this..

[froot loops]

Perhaps, but sometimes that's the point of using the power to organize to protest. Sometimes the things you protest aren't going to be popular.

[entropy]

I wasn't trying to judge.. Just stating where I thought popular opinion would fall.

[iam416]

I continue to hope they will go all in.

It appears that four of the players had sex with a woman. Those four were the ones initially suspended pending the police investigation. When the investigation cleared them of criminal wrongdoing, they were reinstated.

There were also 6 bystanders (I could be wrong -- it could be 5 and 5). One of the bystanders recorded the encounter and shared it. It was probably a good thing someone recorded it because it was definitive in clearing the players in the eyes of the law.

The girl was drunk. As were, presumably, the football players.

Minnesota prohibits sexual assault as part of its student conduct code.

Sexual conduct requires affirmative consent. If none is given, then it's sexual assault.

Under the Minnesota code (and many others as "required" by the DOJ): "Consent is not obtained where: ...There is incapacitation due to the influence of drugs or alcohol."

Everyone stipulated that she was drunk. The initial report likely concludes that there was no affirmative consent because she was drunk. Thus, there was a sexual assault as defined by the University Code of Conduct.

The University will expel the 4 students who committed the "sexual assault." They will expel the student who recorded it. They will suspend the other 5 bystanders for a year.

The football team is protesting this basic set of facts. Four students will be expelled and labeled as sexual predators for having what was probably consensual sex in the the non-academic world.

I think that the entire issue is very much worth protesting I don't think the public at-large understands how Universities handle sexual assault cases. I think they ought to.

Finally, I'm not one to judge what you do behind closed doors. If you want to engage in a consensual gangbang, then whatever. Personally, I find it gross, but I hate to be the morality police.

[iam416]

Findlay is a little more under the radar than the Goofers, but still. Here's two more AA football players that were expelled over what was probably consensual sex: http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-...ape-allegation

[AlabamAlum]

So, if she had sex with them and they were drunk, couldn't she be charged too?

[iam416]

Yes. But they didn't initiate a complaint.

[UMStan White]

So you are basing your opinion upon bare allegations in a complaint? I would have expected a heightened level of skepticism from an attorney. (And by "complaint" I am referring to the court pleading filed by the Plaintiffs, not a "complaint to authorities or school officials". Talent understands the difference)

[iam416]

For the Minnesota matter, there is no court pleading. For my post I put together known facts + inferences. I could obviously be wrong, e.g., about why the University found no consent. My best guess based on what the facts appear to be is what I set forth -- that she was drunk/incapacitated and couldn't consent per University standards of affirmative consent. That certainly explains why a video would be criminally exculpating and why they could still be found to have violated the student code for sexual assault.

The Findlay case is obviously written from the perspective the Plaintiffs. That one I'd definitely want to read the Answer.

[UMStan White]

"The Findlay case is obviously written from the perspective the Plaintiffs. That one I'd definitely want to read the Answer."

I thought you would. Thus my post.

[Hannibal]

Findlay is a little more under the radar than the Goofers, but still. Here's two more AA football players that were expelled over what was probably consensual sex: http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-...ape-allegation

Sexism blah blah Rape Culture blah blah something something one in five blah blah blah...