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[THE_WIZARD_]

....a cheater says...

[WingsFan]

Maybe you should start cheating if you ever want to win again

[lineygoblue]

Bob Knight has died.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/38796141/legendary-basketball-coach-bob-knight-dies-83

[THE_WIZARD_]

RIP Bobby. May they bury you as you requested...ass up so your detractors can kiss your ass.

[Mike]

A fine American.

[lineygoblue]

Hard to believe that he and Bo Schembechler were good friends.

Then again ....

[WingsFan]

[iam416]

Yesterday an article surveying 50 coaches found 47 thought knowing the other teams plays was a pretty big deal and then today it's reported that B10 coaches are irate at M's massive cheating scandal because, well, it's a big advantage to know what the other team is doing. Well, a big advantage to everyone but Coach Prime!!!!!!

Kudos to M faithful to still using "alleged" on this massive and brazen cheating operation and genuinely thinking that knowing exactly what the opponent is doing isn't some sort of considerable advantage. That's ballsy-ass stuff right there.

[iam416]

It's just a damn shame, though, that HARBAUGH*****'s cheating ass is going to tuck tail and run. It'd be great for him to stay in 2024 and 2025 and take his beatings. But, much like 2020, he has no interest in that.

[Jeff Buchanan]

What are all of you that are vilifying M's 2023 football success and Harbaugh going to do if the NCAA can't find evidence that Harbaugh or his coaches were involved in Stalion's impressive sign stealing operation? The story has spun out of control on the web and among sports writers. Yet, the answers to key questions elude a factual basis. In fact, contrary to the the aversions of M's critic's, that Harbaugh or his coaching staff knowingly took part in the Stalion scheme, still remain alleged.

The unfortunate truth about this episode in the history of M football is that the program and its coaches have been accused, judged and found guilty of breaking rules that conferred an unfair advantage to the football team. The cheating, as it has been called by critics, explains M's wins in 2022 and 2023. Critics have already concluded Jim Harbaugh is a cheater. I'm saddened by that.

The damage to him personally, to the players and coaches, to the University have already occurred. Even if an investigation by the NCAA finds that evidential circumstances indicate no rules were broken by the football program or by JH himself, does anyone think the sports press, other Big coaches or M's rival fans, all of whom, have excoriated Harbaugh and the team will be held accountable for those characterizations? Come forward and say they misjudged the veracity of the allegations?

I don't and once again the toxic nature of both college and pro-sports is driving me and other sports fans declining interest in continuing to watch on TV or buy tickets to attend games. I think that's called eating your own or killing the goose that laid the golden egg. Sad really.

[iam416]

M. Cheated. Full. Fucking. Stop.

And Stalions had sidelline access to the Coordinators and HARBAUGH**** and everyone had his laminated playsheets. Either HARBAUGH**** and his coordinators just assumed Stalions was a savant or they verified the source of the information that was directly affecting in-game calls. More to the point, the NCAA rules make the HC responsible for his staff whether he knows exactly what the staff is up to or not.

Of course you're saddened -- your beloved M are brazen cheaters and there's nothing you can say to the contrary. The unfortunate truth about this incident is that HARBAUGH****, after 6 seasons of failure and nearly being run out of AA, resorted to a massive, brazen cheating operation. The unfortunate truth about this incident is that M decided to cheat instead of coach. That's very unfortunate.

But kudos to you for somehow managing to play the victim.

[Cody_Russell]

Curious to see how M looks in these last 4 regular season games because that would be telling of how useful their signal hacking program was from 2021-2023. They sure looked normal vs MSU as they were aware of the alleged crimes.

My biased perspective would obviously find enjoyment in M annihilating PSU and OSU despite coaches saying this stuff. Such as M’s success directly being related to the scandal. We shall see what happens in these games… that will tell how valuable it was!

[Mike]

Fortunately, there are two golden opportunities for the haters to prove just how fraudulent Michigan football is. November 11 in Happy Valley and November 25 when Ryan "Tough Guy" Day comes to Ann Arbor. I would assume that 3 weeks notice for PSU and 5 weeks for OSU would be enough time to modify their play calls or go to wristbands and Connor Stalions won't be there. That excuse goes away for PSU and OSU. Full. Fucking. Stop. Beat Michigan and actually EARN your way to Indy, don't go crying to the commish like little bitches.

[iam416]

Curious to see how M looks in these last 4 regular season games because that would be telling of how useful their signal hacking program was from 2021-2023. They sure looked normal vs MSU as they were aware of the alleged crimes.

My biased perspective would obviously find enjoyment in M annihilating PSU and OSU despite coaches saying this stuf. Such as M’s success directly being related to the scandal. We shall see what happens in these games… that will tell how valuable it was!

Oh, M is going to destroy OSU. There's zero doubt about that.

That doesn't mean they weren't brazenly cheating.

In the coaches survey the coaches put the value of M's operation at (unscientifically), 7-10 points. M is 28 points better than everyone in CFB so it doesn't matter.

But goddamn do I hope HARBAUGH***** doesn't bitch out and run in 2024.

[iam416]

But, fortunately, the World knows HARBAUGH***** and M are dirty fucking cheaters. That's not going away.

HARBAUGH***** was a failure. HARBAUGH***** cheated. HARBAUGH**** won. Then HARBAUGH**** ran like the cunt that he is. Not the first time he ran.