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[AlabamAlum]

I am surfeited of this topic.

I wish you would surfeit the fuck up.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Shaddup

[Obi-Jon]

Scantily clad cheerleaders from the University of Spoiled Children are its only redeeming feature. They can send them and leave the team at home. I have yet to see any value whatsoever in UCLA.

Divide the conference into two divisions. The original teams (minus Illinois and Purdue) in one and all the rest in the other. Call the divisions "Contenders" and "Dumpster-fires".

[Dr. Strangelove]

Haven't posted the schedule in a while. Here's the full slate through September

August 27
Nebraska v. Northwestern (Dublin)
Illinois v. Wyoming

September 1 (Thur)
Penn State @ Purdue
Minnesota v. New Mexico State

September 2 (Fri)
Illinois @ Indiana
Michigan State v. Western Michigan

September 3
Ohio State v. Notre Dame
Rutgers @ Boston College
Michigan v. Colorado State
Maryland v. Buffalo
Iowa v. South Dakota State
Nebraska v. North Dakota
Wisconsin v. Illinois State

September 10
Wisconsin v. Washington State
Illinois v. Virginia
Iowa v. Iowa State
Northwestern v. Duke
Michigan v. Hawaii
Penn State v. Ohio
Ohio State v. Arkansas State
Nebraska v. Georgia Southern
Michigan State v. Akron
Maryland @ Charlotte
Indiana v. Idaho
Purdue v. Indiana State
Minnesota v. Western Illinois
Rutgers v. Wagner

September 17
Penn State @ Auburn
Nebraska v. Oklahoma
Michigan State @ Washington .
Minnesota v. Colorado
Purdue @ Syracuse
Maryland v. SMU
Ohio State v. Toledo
Michigan v. UConn
Iowa v. Nevada
Indiana v. Western Kentucky
Rutgers @ Temple
Wisconsin v. New Mexico State
Northwestern v. Southern Illinois

September 22 (Thur)
Illinois v. Chattanooga

September 24
Ohio State v. Wisconsin
Michigan State v. Minnesota
Michigan v. Maryland
Iowa @ Rutgers
Indiana @ Cincinnati
Penn State v. Central Michigan
Northwestern v. Miami-OH
Purdue v. Florida Atlantic

[THE_WIZARD_]

STFU COMMIE

[edindetroit]

Scantily clad cheerleaders from the University of Spoiled Children are its only redeeming feature. They can send them and leave the team at home. I have yet to see any value whatsoever in UCLA.

Divide the conference into two divisions. The original teams (minus Illinois and Purdue) in one and all the rest in the other. Call the divisions "Contenders" and "Dumpster-fires".

Can Michigan State go in the dumpster fire division? They can bring couches.

[Whitley]

A report from Yahoo today says a source close to the Big Ten says these are the four universities in the Big Ten wishlist
Notre Dame
Stanford
Oregon
UNC

source is not as sure on UNC and says list is fluid.

So if all that goes down you might get pods that look like this

pod1
Oregon
USC
UCLA
Stanford
Notre Dame

pod 2
Iowa
Nebraska
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Northwestern

Pod 3
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Indiana
Purdue


Pod4
Illinois
Penn State
UNC
Rutgers
Maryland

concession made to Notre Dame for a national schedule here. That meant the yearly Illinois/northwestern loses out and cornhuskers get bumped over to pod 2.

BTW what killer MBB league this would be.

[AlabamAlum]

So, UNC without Duke?

[Whitley]

So, UNC without Duke?

I have a hard time seeing it.UNC is the power broker in the ACC. I think the final endgame is 24 but it might take a 15-20 years to get there.

So I think the dream final four would be:Duke, Virginia, Washington, Colorado
4 pods of 6.

Pod 1
Washington
Oregon
Notre Dame
USC
UCLA
Stanford

Pod 2
Colorado
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Iowa
Minnesota
Illinois

Pod 3
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Indiana
Purdue
Northwestern

Pod 4
Penn State
Maryland
Rutgers
UNC
Duke
Virginia


Play 5 games in your pod then 12 games against another 2 pod over the course of 3 years. So Michigan schedule could look look like this

Year 1: Notre Dame, Stanford, Nebraska, Wisconsin


Year 2 : USC, Washington, Colorado, Illinois

Year 3: UCLA, Oregon, Minnesota, Iowa

[lineygoblue]

So nobody wants Clemson or GA Tech?

[AlabamAlum]

GaTech, probably not. Clemson, Florida State, Miami, and maybe the Virginia schools, yes, though.

[iam416]

Georgia Tech is a big fucking zero. Especially for the SEC.

Clemson is a pretty big brand name. I think brand value is way more valuable now than "markets" or whatever. And Clemson has big brand value.

IMO, the ACC schools that the B10 should consider are, in order, UNC, Clemson and Virginia. And no one else. The SEC probably has some leeway to add Florida State to the mix only because the SEC is bascially limited to adding ACC teams.

The B10 has its choice of P12 leftovers, too.

[Whitley]

Georgia Tech is a big fucking zero. Especially for the SEC.

Clemson is a pretty big brand name. I think brand value is way more valuable now than "markets" or whatever. And Clemson has big brand value.

IMO, the ACC schools that the B10 should consider are, in order, UNC, Clemson and Virginia. And no one else. The SEC probably has some leeway to add Florida State to the mix only because the SEC is bascially limited to adding ACC teams.

The B10 has its choice of P12 leftovers, too.

Clemson has the feel of an SEC school...might be me though.

Duke has no value?

[Dr. Strangelove]

There's a Dennis Dodd story out today that the Big12 is in "deep discussions" with up to 6 Pac12 schools but considering it's Dennis Dodd, take with a large grain of salt.

Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, and Utah to the Big12 makes some sense. The other two are supposedly Washington and Oregon, who I don't think would go Big12 unless they had no other choice. But the Arizona schools (and Utah) probably know they have zero chance of getting a Big10 invite so they may get out while the getting's good.

[iam416]

It's not that Duke doesn't have value, but they don't have enough...IMO. I mean, it's really how much they add as a hoops-only school. They have a bigger brand value than Villanova, but fundamentally, Villanova and Duke are roughly equivalent.