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[iam416]

Glenn327

[WingsFan]

WTF ever happened to...Cool Breeze...mojospartan...PSA...RU...not that I give a flying fuck...just curious...

Last I remember mojo posted was in WX Michigan State forum, after John L Smith was fired. I liked when Wiz and Talent both were Mr Burns.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Maryland and the ACC settled today...ACC gets what they've already withheld from them, about $31 Million. Maryland won't be paying the full $53 million exit fee

[iam416]

Is it time to start making B10 predictions? I'm not quite ready, but I'll open the store with Rutgers being an unmitigated pile of pig dung.

[entropy]

BTN seems impressed with MSU

[Hannibal]

Is it time to start making B10 predictions? I'm not quite ready, but I'll open the store with Rutgers being an unmitigated pile of pig dung.

Maybe not? What did they lose off of last year's team? FWIW they did make a bowl game.

[hack]

Michigan also made a bowl game and fits that description. Maybe you upgrade Michigan to buffalo dung. That's a kind of shit that's at least somewhat valuable, as a natural fertilizer.

[WM Wolverine]

Rutgers got the envious schedule of Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Sparty, Nebraska, Wisconsin... They won't make a bowl game, I'll be impressed if they come close.

[Jeff Buchanan]

EAST

osu
MSU
PSU or M
IU
Maryland
Rutgers

WEST

Wisconsin
Iowa or Neb
NW
Min, Purdue or Illinois


I think the EAST is pretty clear cut. M has no chance in EL, osu will likely prevail there setting up the fairly predictable final standings. The outlier for me is whether or not M is good enough to beat PSU at home - hence the either/or #3 and #4 finish for those two programs.

Other than Wisconsin, the WEST is much more difficult to predict. The bottom three there could be in any order.

[Hannibal]

We should easily be good enough to beat PSU at home. If Hoke loses that game, he should be fired on the spot.

[The Oracle]

We should easily be good enough not "have no chance" at MSU too. If we get blown out there, he should be fired on the spot.

[Hannibal]

As much as I would hate getting blown out by MSU, losing to PSU at home would be more indicative to me of the direction of the program.

[Jeff Buchanan]

We should easily be good enough to beat PSU at home. If Hoke loses that game, he should be fired on the spot.

(1) Hoke isn't getting fired. Pretty sure of that baring a fist fight he might get into with outraged fans in a restaurant somewhere.

(2) Did you watch last years game? It was actually on the BTN a few days ago. M scored some points, on Garder's legs and there were some nice passes to Gallon and Funchess on his arm ...... that was it. Tousissant ran for negative yards. The OL was a sieve. When M got up by two scores, Borges did nothing but continue to call run plays into 8, 9 man fronts despite the fact that PSU was having its way with Mattison. Was that offense and den dense Borgeattison's idea or Hoke's ...... I sense the later.

This team isn't a whole lot different than last year's talent wise. There's a lot of fall camp hype ..... What's new? Not buying it. This team has some serious issues and until they prove me wrong, it makes little sense to thin M is going to beat PSU.........

[Jeff Buchanan]

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We should easily be good enough not "have no chance" at MSU too. If we get blown out there, he should be fired on the spot.

Narduzzi will do exactly what he did last year in EL. Gardner doesn't have the arm to stretch the field vertically on a consistent basis such that Narduzi has to back off.

Nussmeir might just be good enough to design something that will work but until we see what he's up to we have no clue. Right now, MSU has the upper hand and Hoke isn't going to get fired over a loss in EL either.

[Jeff Buchanan]

The point of talent's post was to make a prediction. People usually do this based on observational data retrospectively applied.

There is NOTHING in the retrospective data that makes me believe, right now, that M could beat either of these teams.

What makes any of you believe M can beat either of these teams? If you think they can then I'd be interested in seeing what you think the final standings in the East will be.