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  • Originally posted by whodean View Post
    After some of temporary issues are overcome the East (Leaders) is much stronger of the two.
    Time will tell. The last 10 years or so would not support that assertion.

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    • East will dominate in both football and basketball.

      West will be a volleyball conference ...

      /jab at husker fans
      "in order to lead America you must love America"

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      • Originally posted by whodean View Post
        After some of temporary issues are overcome the East (Leaders) is much stronger of the two.
        Indiana = crap
        Maryland = crap
        Purdue = crap
        Rutgers = crap
        Penn State = soon-to-be crap (especially if O'Brien leaves).

        I love it!

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        • I'd guess basketball won't have divisions.

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          • Which one gets Georgia Tech? This is temporary.

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            • Former Michigan QB and Illini coach Pete Elliott dies at age 86

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              • Rumour has narduzzi to usc.


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                • That seems like a dumb move. Kiffin's going to be on a very short leash

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                  • Not if Kiffin is about to get canned. Is he the coach in waiting if Kif continues his self destruction?
                    Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                    • Big Ten's top priority is crystal clear


                      By Adam Rittenberg | ESPN.com

                      The crystal football once again is at stake tonight in South Florida, and for the fifth straight season, the Big Ten will watch from the outside.

                      After Ohio State won a national title following the 2002 season and reached the title game in back-to-back years (2006, 2007), the Buckeyes and the rest of the Big Ten haven't been able to reach the sport's biggest stage. The Big Ten typically has been eliminated from the national title chase before Nov. 1. This past season, the league excused itself following a miserable Week 2 performance. Its best contender, Ohio State, wasn't eligible for postseason play. Of the five major conferences -- Big Ten, SEC, Big 12, Pac-12 and ACC -- only the Big Ten and ACC have been shut out of the title game the past five years.

                      The drought raises questions about whether the Big Ten boasts enough elite teams or overall depth to challenge the nation's top leagues. What stands out about the SEC's run since the 2003 season -- seven overall championships, including each of the past six -- is that four teams have won titles and three (Alabama, Florida and LSU) have won multiple titles.

                      Ohio State has been the only Big Ten team in the BCS era to consistently compete for national titles (Nebraska, which reached the national title game 12 years ago, only joined the Big Ten in 2010). Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin and Iowa have been in the mix for time to time, but not nearly as much as Ohio State or some of the SEC's powers.

                      Is depth the Big Ten's chief concern right now, or does the league just need one team to break through?

                      "I think depth is important, but I don't think you can be a great conference unless you have teams competing for the national championship," Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany told ESPN.com last week. "Step 1 is getting our elite teams playing at the elite level. And then the second most important thing is quality depth."

                      Ohio State could be gunning for a national title in 2013 after going 12-0 in coach Urban Meyer's first season in Columbus. But no other Big Ten teams project to be in the mix for the crystal football.

                      Michigan is recruiting well but has some significant questions. Wisconsin is going through a coaching change and recently lost its third straight Rose Bowl. Penn State is facing NCAA sanctions for three more seasons. Iowa is trying to bounce back from a 4-8 season. Nebraska players and coaches openly talk about the national title, but no one outside the Osborne Athletic Complex puts the Huskers in that category.

                      "First, we've got to get one involved," Delany said. "Then, you get two involved or three involved. We just haven't been there in the last five years. I don't want to get the cart in front of the horse. I'm seeing increased signs of competitiveness on the recruiting side, on the coaching stability side. And we've got a pretty good chance to measure ourselves because we're pretty much playing elite teams all the time in the postseason. We're not kidding ourselves. If you don't compete, you can tell by the score. When you do compete and you don't win, you can see how close you are or are not.

                      "But I like the trajectory. I think there's improvement. I think there's some stabilization that's occurring, and then it's about performing."

                      Depth is important, and the Big Ten seems to be making small improvement there. But in a sport where national titles mean everything, the league's chief priority is crystal clear.
                      Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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                      • "But I like the trajectory. I think there's improvement. I think there's some stabilization that's occurring, and then it's about performing."
                        Boy, I'm not sure about that trajectory. This season was, at best, only hair better than last season and, IMO, it was worse. I guess rock bottom is a good starting point for a "good trajectory" -- lol.
                        The last sentence is true, but it pretty much only about M. They're definitely upward trending (from RichGOD) and far, far more stable and competent.
                        I guess Dantonio has stablized MSU into what should be a 7-8 win team with an occasional trip up to 10. Fitzgerald has NW running smoothly. Ferentz is gold for 5-6 wins a year and an occasional bounce up to 11 (and a COY!).
                        I dunno, still seems like dogshit. Relative to the hoops situation, it's even worse.
                        Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                        Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                        • Michigan is only trending upwards in recruiting. Results have yet to be realized on the field until 2014, at the earliest.

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                          • with PSU and OSU out of the bowl picture, I think most people thought the BIG was going to be blown out. yet, Minny should have won and Mich and Neb had chances to win their games.

                            I don't think the gap is that wide. Frankly, I think it is QB play that is really hurting the BIG as a whole.
                            Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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                            • Shitty defense is killing the league too. M and Nebraska both got exposed in their bowl games. I should I say -- "re-exposed". Even OSU has been shaky on defense the past couple of years. MSU is the only program right now with a legit Top 10 defense.

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                              • hanny.. yes, that is true. But both teams had enough offense to win. But that was all season for both, not just the bowl games. Sometimes it is inferred that the BIG suddenly has less success against the SEC, yet a teams regular season trend shows itself in bowl games

                                I'd make the arguement that on D, but Mich and Neb.. safety play, or the QB for the D, hurt them more than any other factor.. jmo

                                btw.. look at the QB ratings for the BIG and you'll see what I mean. BIG needs better QB play period.
                                Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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