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  • I wonder if they were given the option of this or the death penalty or other sanctions
    Benny Blades~"If you break down this team man for man, we have talent to compare with any team."

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    • There IS a fate worse than the death penalty and that's outright expulsion. I don't know if that would ever be on the table

      Jason- The Miami case, and you noted as much, isn't exactly a comparable situation considering it involved criminal behavior but also provided a direct extra benefit to student-athletes. I have heard the Baylor case raised a lot as well; but there, once again, there was a coach actively trying to hide extra benefits in the most appallingly shameful way possible.

      There simply isn't a competitive advantage gained or an extra benefit or academic fraud or impermissible recruitment in this case. Maintaining the university's image is not, IMO, a competitive edge that did not exist but for the cover-up.

      But thanks to public outcry and a desire to see Penn State burned to the ground, Emmert has made his power grab. Every indication is that Penn State is cooperating with the NCAA and has come to some agreement with them. But there's no longer anything to prevent the NCAA from punishing any school, for any reason, with no requirement of even an investigation or to allow the accused school to defend itself, so long as the President & his cronies in Indianapolis vote for it.

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      • Colossal fine expected to be a part of the NCAA sanctions; talking $30-60 million

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        • Maybe just the start of the house of cards beginning to crumble....

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          • "But thanks to public outcry and a desire to see Penn State burned to the ground, Emmert has made his power grab. Every indication is that Penn State is cooperating with the NCAA and has come to some agreement with them. But there's no longer anything to prevent the NCAA from punishing any school, for any reason, with no requirement of even an investigation or to allow the accused school to defend itself, so long as the President & his cronies in Indianapolis vote for it."

            Just what one would expect to hear from a fan of a program that is so corrupt that if the NCAA really flexed its muscle, would be going the way of all other unethical corrupt programs.

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            • Will players be allowed to transfer immediately without penalty? If so, Hoke needs to have Anthony Zettel's number on speed dial.

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              • Did he redshirt? If not did he play at all?

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                • "what did Penn State gain an unfair advantage by not reporting it?"

                  It's not just the not reporting it, its the cover-up too is why the NCAA is involved... You hit it exactly on the head when you noted how they'd be disadvantage if news about Sandusky comes to light in '98, '01 or whenever...

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                  • Originally posted by WM Wolverine View Post
                    "what did Penn State gain an unfair advantage by not reporting it?"

                    It's not just the not reporting it, its the cover-up too is why the NCAA is involved... You hit it exactly on the head when you noted how they'd be disadvantage if news about Sandusky comes to light in '98, '01 or whenever...
                    Avoiding negative publicity is not the same thing as having an unfair advantage over other programs.

                    Hanni- I can't imagine the NCAA not allowing kids to transfer immediately if the program is hit with a lengthy bowl ban. Prob not just upperclassmen either.

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                    • Big10 football 2 teams on probation, SEC 0
                      Atlanta, GA

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                      • A lot of wins happened because PSU didn't want anyone to know.
                        Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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                        • Originally posted by whodean View Post
                          Big10 football 2 teams on probation, SEC 0
                          Not true

                          South Carolina was just put on probation and got off pretty lightly



                          Alabama just came off their third probation in 15 years, so hey, pop the champagne! They would still be classified as a repeat offender if something occurs in the next 2 years.

                          But the repeat-offender window that has been open since 1995 still is open for two more years.


                          LSU just finished a stint as well

                          The NCAA has placed LSU's football program on probation for one year and handed it recruiting and scholarship reductions after its Committee on Infractions cited the program with major violations.


                          Keeping in mind that the same NCAA, which now says it has unparallelled authority to act on the Penn State matter, previously stated that in the case of Cam Newton, their hands were completely tied since there simply was no rule prohibiting parents from shopping their kids to the highest bidder.
                          Last edited by Dr. Strangelove; July 22, 2012, 08:39 PM.

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                          • Thank whoDean for the softball.

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                            • Ok, Big10-2 SEC-1 as of the moment.

                              I didn't expect perspective here though, where the SEC only wins because they cheat and the Big10's shit don't stink
                              Atlanta, GA

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                              • If this is true, goodbye psu.

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