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  • here's the full report:

    http://assets.espn.go.com/pdf/2012/0712/psupressrelease.pdf
    Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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    • The handful of students and alumni that gathered in Penn State's student center this morning to watch the release of the Freeh report live were stunned when the channel suddenly switched.



      there is a cultural problem at PSU if this is what they're doing..
      Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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      • [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxhIhHv8oIM"]B1G Mascots "Call Me Maybe" by Carly Rae - YouTube[/ame]
        Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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        • Originally posted by hack View Post
          Yikes. I really feel for PSU fans. All of us know what it's like to really pour a lot of energy and money and emotion into a football program and an identity, and it must be just exceptionally painful at times to reconcile truth and reality with the decades of cherished memories. I'm not surprised many aren't trying. A lot less throws some fans into denial, as we've seen in Columbus.
          I would too- except they're the ones that elevated Paterno to Demigod status and kept him right up there to the very end. With the culmulation being that whole creepy "ceremony" before the Nebraska game last year.

          Now the adminstration at Penn State is going to get fried, and rightfully so. But are we to think nobody else saw things, heard rumors or even bothered to question why Sandusky would abruptly "retire", and never get another job?

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          • Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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            • Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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              • Blah, Blah, Blah.

                No surprise concerning Jim Tressel or Jerry Sandusky but now Joe Paterno? Bit of shocker, but in the end, GUILTY too.


                Now for something important and interesting....

                Captain’s log, Stardate this Saturday.

                Team OP heads to Bimini, Chub Cay, Nassau, Rose Island and Rum Cay in Bahamas on an 8-day odyssey! 8 friends and family, 2 crew and $1600 in Liquor. Living off the land so to speak as I cross the Tongue of the Ocean between the leeward side of Andros and New Providence (as seen from space). The ocean goes from 115 ft to over 6000 ft and the fishing is spectacular.
                I will be drunk everyday….but if this proves to be my last log entry, never buy a boat and never agree take to the high seas in adventure!

                Now back to the never-ending job of provisioning!

                BTW never venture past the nautical range of US Coast Guard Sea Dolphins, the Bahamians have nothing! I bid adieu.











                ?I don?t take vacations. I don?t get sick. I don?t observe major holidays. I?m a jackhammer.?

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                • OP ...... really glad you have your priorities straight.

                  Good sailing, my friend. Hope you don't need that guy in the last picture!
                  Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                  • Does osu's conduct in the tressel affair raise to the level of psu's conduct in the Paterno/Sandusky affair? In my view it does albeit at a different level
                    I wonder if Rob will keep insisting I'm not "reading" Buchanan's position correctly. LMAO.
                    Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                    Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                    • talent... JoePa not only didn't stop one of his coaches from raping kids, he actually was an enabler. I think there is a line he crossed and all the good things he's done for PSU and CF in general, suddenly don't matter. jmo
                      I agree entirely, Entropy. There was some alleged discussion about one thing JoePa did aside from enabling child rape -- his efforts to control disclosure of violations by PSU players. I simply said that's a total non-issue and wouldn't even be a blip without the massive Sandusky foundation. The other stuff -- well, one thing, is a pebble added to the top of Mt. Everest.

                      Obviously, you can't talk about any of JoePa's transgressions w/o doing so through the Sandusky context, though, apparently, some think you can.
                      Last edited by iam416; July 12, 2012, 12:03 PM.
                      Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                      Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                      • If college football does not want to go the way of pro sports with fans little interested in the teams and more interested in the spectacle, with money and marketing driving what the product looks like, it has to have governing bodies that have the power to curb cheating and levy penalties sufficient to change program cultures. Shrugging shoulders and saying CFB it is what it is, like talent tends to do, or simply ignoring that anything is wrong with the sport, like dsl does when defending osu's behavior in the tressel affair, is a cop out. It represents some level of cowardice in advocating for the institutional change, the holding of colleges to a higher standard of behavior in sports that are demanded, if we are to use the high profile black-eyes CFB has sustained in the last few years as examples of a need to do that.
                        And finally, I've made numerous posts expressing (1) CFB is healthier than ever and going no where and (2) expressing my disdain for this false notion of "amateurism" and the "student-athlete" foisted upon CFB (and other sports) in the 50s in an effort by the NCAA to gain power.

                        If the direction of the game weeds out sanctimonious dinosaurs from the ranks of CFB fans, then I say full speed ahead.
                        Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                        Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                        • I'm not a lawyer but this seems like it could be bad for the PSU admin.

                          From the Freeh report findings regarding the 2001 shower incident witnessed by McQeary (Curely's revised plan that Spanier references is the plan to not tell child welfare services) :

                          Schultz and Spanier, having prior knowledge of the 1998 child sex abuse allegation against Sandusky, approved Curley's revised plan. Spanier noted in an email that the "only downside for us is if the message isn t 'heard' and acted upon, and we then become vulnerable for not having reported it. But that can be assessed down the road. The approach you outline is humane and a reasonable way to proceed."

                          Mr. Spanier, meet the downside.

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                          • The only "humane" way I can think of treating a child rapist is to keep them out of general population when they go to prison. And, that may be TOO humane ...
                            "in order to lead America you must love America"

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                            • Those clowns are in for a bit of trouble.

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                              • CHAPTER 7 SANDUSKY'S POST RETIREMENT INTERACTIONS WITH THE UNIVERSITY
                                KEY FINDINGS

                                Despite Spanier's, Schultz's, Paterno's and Curley's knowledge of criminal investigations of Sandusky regarding child abuse as early as 1998, they failed to control Sandusky's access to the University's facilities and campuses. In fact, Sandusky was allowed to have a key for, and continued to work out in, the Lasch Building until November 2011, and had keys to other Penn State facilities.

                                After his retirement, Sandusky retained access to the Nittany Lion Club, an exclusive seating area at Beaver Stadium. Sandusky continued to be invited by senior University officials and attend Nittany Lion Club events until his November 2011 arrest. If University leaders had not granted Sandusky full use of Penn State's football facilities and supported his ways to "work with young people through Penn State," sexual assaults of several young boys on the Penn State campus might have been prevented.
                                Last edited by Mike; July 12, 2012, 12:34 PM.

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