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  • Big Ten fields 25 sports, SEC 20... Fielding these extra programs isn't cheap, every college of course doesn't field a team in each sport, it'd be better to look at the average # of sports each program does at a lot of programs don't compete in every sport.

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    • re: oversigning, M DIDN'T fill all its scholarship in the '12 recruiting class. They left one open scholarship that they didn't fill. Not sure what year that article is referring to...

      In the B10 you can apply for up to 3 exceptions to oversign past 85 but only if you know your going to have players leaving to open up those spots, which you have to prove...

      The SEC's silly 25 limit rule is a ridiculous attempt at stopping oversigning, you can sign up to 125 recruits in 5 consecutive classes.

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      • Originally posted by entropy View Post
        No, I'm not. Why hasn't the ACC schools in the same areas having this type of success?

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        Because the kids are going to SEC schools?
        Atlanta, GA

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        • SEC is losing their top recruits to SEC schools. There is quite a bit of talent in the mid atlantic (NC, Virginia, Maryland) to support their programs better than their on-field performance. I see the ACC as being very balanced; tons of mediocre programs in football that beat each other up.

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          • But the ACC is a long way from the days of Lawrence Taylor and Randy White.

            BTW, WM, did you mean ACC in your first sentence?
            Benny Blades~"If you break down this team man for man, we have talent to compare with any team."

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            • Obviously!

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              • The SEC also pays better..
                Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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                • Originally posted by Tony G View Post
                  Now who's massaging numbers? Without any explanation of what the money that wasn't declared profit was spent on, they are meaningless. I haven't seen anything about your numbers to dispute the SEC spend being greater than the B1G spend.
                  That's probably because I never made such an assertion. Thought it was obvious, but maybe not.

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                  • Originally posted by whodean View Post
                    I think you are missing the fact that more, higher quality recruits come from SEC states than from the Rust belt. Kids tend to attend college in their region.
                    That has be true for decades though, and the SEC didn't become dominant until the last ten years. In the 80s and 90s were heard the same arguments applied to Miami and FSU, and neither has been anything of note for a decade. Their demographics didn't change.

                    The SEC simply wants to win more. They have no scruples when it comes to recruiting and roster management, and they're willing to pay ridiculous amounts of money for the best coaches and facilities.

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                    • They have no scruples when it comes to recruiting and roster management

                      Bingo.
                      Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                      • Espn's 20 teams that have a shot of winning it all.... It's a good laugh



                        20 teams that can win it all

                        ESPN Insider

                        Texas
                        The defense could be elite, but will the quarterback play catch up?

                        Clemson
                        The Tigers have the potential to again be very good -- and very volatile -- in 2012.

                        South Carolina
                        Are the Gamecocks ready to take another big step this season?

                        TCU
                        A new, more powerful conference will test the Horned Frogs this year.

                        Arkansas
                        Bobby Petrino left behind a lot of talent. Can the Razorbacks win without him?

                        West Virginia
                        The Mountaineers' offense could be even better in Year 2 under Dana Holgorsen.

                        Georgia
                        Are the Bulldogs ready to challenge the likes of Alabama and LSU for the SEC crown?

                        Wisconsin
                        To join the BCS title conversation, the Badgers have to figure out how to replace Russell Wilson.

                        Florida State
                        EJ Manuel has the potential to take the Seminoles to new heights in 2012.

                        Boise State
                        Chris Petersen is facing a challenging reloading project in 2012, starting at the QB position.

                        Stanford
                        The Cardinal have enough key pieces coming back to contend in Year 1 of the post-Andrew Luck era.

                        Ohio State
                        The Buckeyes could post one of the nation's biggest turnarounds behind sophomore QB Braxton Miller.

                        Virginia Tech
                        The Hokies will feature a lot of new faces, but QB Logan Thomas could be in for a huge year.

                        Oklahoma State
                        Mike Gundy's team has the potential to be very good again in 2012.

                        USC
                        The Trojans are bringing back a ton of talent on both sides of the ball.

                        Florida
                        The Gators struggled last season, but there are enough pieces in place for them to make a run.

                        Oregon
                        The Ducks' defense could be just as good as their high-powered offense this season.

                        Oklahoma
                        There are reasons to believe the Sooners could be better on both sides of the ball in 2012.

                        LSU
                        The Tigers' D will be dominant yet again, and the offense could look to air it out more.

                        Alabama
                        Last year's champs will be right back in the BCS title mix again this season.
                        Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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                        • Good example of why ESPN's "Insider" content is as useful as football bat.

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                          • USC, Oregon, LSU and Bama all have a good shot. The rest? Meh.
                            Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                            • Oklahoma has a chance... Oregon missing their QB/RB will drop, which only helps USC...

                              Bama, USC, Oklahoma, LSU then a big drop to everyone else...

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                              • "Ohio State
                                The Buckeyes could post one of the nation's biggest turnarounds behind sophomore QB Braxton Miller."

                                Uh.. did someone forget to tell the dumb fucks at ESPn that OSU ain't competing for anything in 2012?

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