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[Tony G]

I can't decide who I want to come out on top in this. I would enjoy watching either the Alabama or Texas fanbase having a meltdown

If only there were some way to meltdown both....

[hack]

On the off chance that we could steal Hand...

[Dr. Strangelove]

Saban staying and looks like Brown won't go down without a fight. Best possible scenario for a total Texas meltdown...excellent

[WM Wolverine]

But we wanted a Bama meltdown worse.

[entropy]

The Rest of CF

Same here... Plus, I don't think Saban would have won like he did at bama.... And I'd love to say the sec rules are the advantage.

Mack is now out at Texas.


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[Cody_Russell]

Chip Kelly or Sean Payton will be hired, that is my guess for Texas.
Look for them to throw around the offer of $10 million per year to "elite" coaches.

[Jeff Buchanan]

Jimmy Ball Game's name has come up as a HC candidate at Texas. He reportedly turned down a contract extension with the 49'ers a couple of weeks ago.

When you look at the resumes of the names on the list of candidates that Texas is allegedly looking at and the stunning salary numbers being thrown around, numbers big enough to pull the best of the best from just about anywhere, you have to wonder how in the hell Brandon settled on and then hired Hoke?

I'm still stuck on the notion that the Controlling Boards really don't care enough about M football and really don't want to play in that CFB mud wrestling contest at that kind of money.

Michigan is becoming Navy ...... a former great football program with a ton of tradition and in on every discussion of CFB in the day, relegated to relative anonymity.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/bruce-feldman/24375508/mack-brown-out-so-now-what-is-longhorns-next-move

[entropy]

The last 24 hours ...*(reply)
by ChipBrown at 12/15 4:20 AM


The regents and BMDs pursuing Saban felt Mack Brown and Bill Powers purposely gummed up Texas' chance to get Saban, and Saturday they*threatened to pack up all their money from Texas if Brown wasn't removed. Upon learning this, Brown decided to step down and even made mention of this in his press release:

"Now, the program is again being pulled in different directions, and I think the time is right for a change," Brown said.*

Not saying any of this is good or bad. But that's what happened.

I keep being asked* if Saban to Texas was done. It was never done.

But if Mack would have stepped down as early as last Sunday (as the UT regents and BMDs pursuing Saban would have liked) or at any point this past week, Texas would have had a better-than-you-think chance at offering-signing-announcing Saban - maybe even early next week.

Is Saban still in play? I'm told no by all sides. But there are*some*murmurs out there*he could*still be in play ...

Again, I've been told by both sides Saban is off the table.

[hack]

Jimmy Ball Game's name has come up as a HC candidate at Texas. He reportedly turned down a contract extension with the 49'ers a couple of weeks ago.

When you look at the resumes of the names on the list of candidates that Texas is allegedly looking at and the stunning salary numbers being thrown around, numbers big enough to pull the best of the best from just about anywhere, you have to wonder how in the hell Brandon settled on and then hired Hoke?

I'm still stuck on the notion that the Controlling Boards really don't care enough about M football and really don't want to play in that CFB mud wrestling contest at that kind of money.

Michigan is becoming Navy ...... a former great football program with a ton of tradition and in on every discussion of CFB in the day, relegated to relative anonymity.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...orns-next-move

Most of you have no idea whatsoever what I might think about this.

[Jeff Buchanan]

Most of you have no idea whatsoever what I might think about this.

I suspect I have a pretty good idea. There's not much to be optimistic about going forward. I'm probably as down about M football as I have been in 45+ years of being a fan and supporter.

There's just no sugar coating it. As hard as I have tried to look at things positively, its hard to do. Watching the rest of CFB jet ahead into the new age while M stays locked in the stone age is terribly frustrating.

Looking back, Bill Martin clearly had the right idea with Rodriguez. I just don't think Rodriguez was the right guy even though he certainly played a certain kind of new age game with potential if properly supported, led and managed. He was not supported and he was clearly not up to the task of leading and managing.

So, in comparing where Texas sits to where M sat at the end of the Carr era and then at the abrupt end of the Rodriguez era, it will be interesting to see where Texas goes ..... an Art Briles type hire or a Harbaugh type hire. These two probably represent the opposite ends of the current CFB styles of play.

Brandon wanted a coach steeped in the traditions of M football that played a power type of game. He may have even seen Borges as the kind of OC who could bring a Patriots/Belichick style of play to the program.

So far, it's my view that, if those were his objectives, and I don't find a lot of fault with them, those that he hired to deliver have been pretty stupefying failures. The rub is that he's going to stick with them despite a pattern of less than stellar achievement with the resources they were given.

The discouraging thing is that, at the start, I think Hoke had a chance to leverage the product. Things looked pretty good after 11-2 and a nice Bowl win. Since then, the brand looks pretty bad, spoiled by a combination of how its being presented by Dave Brandon and a mediocre 15-10 record over two seasons. I simply can't get over that and the loss of Hand to Alabama is a disturbing symptom of this reality.

[hack]

If Harbaugh really has declined to sign an extension -- IF that's true -- then all that stuff I'm going on about re keeping open the lines of communication and establishing a regular regime of ass kissing is doubly important. Hopefully not this offseason, but Michigan MUST BE READY when Harbaugh is. Maybe all it means is he wants to stick in the NFL and is watching his leverage. Or eyeing another NFL team. Or, misses college football. Maybe he actually wants to be here, and, like the sane person that he is, figured after last season Hoke would be on the hot seat. Who the hell knows? But the man's obviously the best potential savior of this program. Even if it's a 10% chance, all efforts must be made.

[lineygoblue]

Just an opinion, .. I don't think Harbaugh is going to leave the 49ers as long as he's competing for a Super Bowl. He's building a decent program there, and I don't think he'd leave if he felt that he still has a shot to win it all. One guy on ESPN the other day said this and added that Jim wants a SB title because he doesn't want to have to listen to John talk about his own Super Bowl ring. The Harbaugh brothers are very competitive, and Jim isn't about to stand aside while John brags about winning a Super Bowl. Jim wants a SB ring too.

So, I think the Jim Harbaugh to Tejas talk is Longhorn wishful thinking right now. I think there is <5% chance that it happens. In fact, I think its more likely that JOHN Harbaugh ends up as the new Longhorn coach, than Jim ...

[Mike]

I agree. Jim Harbaugh isn't leaving SF until he wins a Super Bowl. May that be sooner rather than later.

[Jeff Buchanan]

Just an opinion, .. I think the Jim Harbaugh to Tejas talk is Longhorn wishful thinking right now. I think there is <5% chance that it happens. In fact, I think its more likely that JOHN Harbaugh ends up as the new Longhorn coach, than Jim ...

I think you're right.

In the heady days before reality, during M's coaching search(es), I remember thinking who wouldn't want to coach at Michigan? I think Texas fans and deciders are in the same place.

Big money is driving college and pro-football. (1) The deciders have to understand that and be willing to play the high stakes, CFB, HC mud wrestling derby. (2) Fans need to understand that is what this is all about these days.

Sure, in the minds of high value coaches, there may be some sentiment associated with returning to an alma-mater. But the reality is that these guys, along with their "people," are looking at hard facts and $$$ in the terms programs are offering.

I can now see plenty of reasons a high value coach would not even look at what Michigan might have to offer. What a tire fire ..... and the underlying reasons for that characterization are well known to everyone who posts regularly here.

I don't know enough about the inner workings and politics of the Texas football program to comment authoritatively but, I sense a tire fire, or the potential for one, exists there.

When Saban took the UA job, or equally, when Miles went to LSU, or meyer to osu, while expectations were high, I don't think the "hard facts" about circumstances weighing on a decision to take any of these jobs were as dreadful as they are right now at M and what I suspect they are at Texas.

[Mike]

I'd think the Texas job is considerably more attractive to A-list coaches than Michigan would be. They have the deepest pockets and resources of any program in the country and are located smack dab in the middle of some of the best talent in the country. For the right guy I could see them paying stupid money and not flinching. Or caring.