The Rest of College Football

[Mike]

The standard punishment for the likes of Oregon and Miami should be like USC on the lenient end and PSU on the harsh side. Those two are about the only schools who have received actual punishment, IMO. This one or two scholarship reduction for a few years in nonsense. It has no impact whatsoever. Actual punishment should have a negative effect on the field. Like you can't win as many games as you used to due to the punishment you received for your cheating.

[Hannibal]

Agreed.

And the "repeat offender" time frame needs to be expanded too. Cheaters like Miami have cultural issues that need to be clubbed out of them the way that it was done at SMU.

[THE_WIZARD_]

38 Bowl Games. Good Lord.

[entropy]

The standard punishment for the likes of Oregon and Miami should be like USC on the lenient end and PSU on the harsh side. Those two are about the only schools who have received actual punishment, IMO. This one or two scholarship reduction for a few years in nonsense. It has no impact whatsoever. Actual punishment should have a negative effect on the field. Like you can't win as many games as you used to due to the punishment you received for your cheating.

agree... should be several scholarships so you don't win and therefore, you won't want to chance cheating again.

[WM Wolverine]

38 bowl games, 30 I could care less about. 4 of them that I want to see are probably on at the same time and/or overlap with another...

I really don't have an issue with it (I just ignore them), universities lose money on the minor bowls. Even a lot of decent ones (Citrus, Holiday, Hall-of-Fame) it's a bit more than break even for schools...

Who profits the most? Schools that DON'T go to bowls and don't pay for travel and tickets they can't sell.

[Jeff Buchanan]

New entrants into the bowl party and local people who are looking for a way to cash in are trying to profit the most but .....

It's getting harder and harder to do that. It's like dumbass investors trying to get in on a hot stock or hot market. They usually loose lots of money ...... that's what is going to happen to these guys too.

The bowl market is saturated. The only thing I can think of that might be a sound business decision here is if a two tier CFB system evolves, and I think it will, there is going to be a two, maybe a three, tier bowl system the 2nd of which is going to be playing by the old rules. The bowl poo-bahs in the plaid, orange jackets raked in the cash at the expense of participating programs and fans who got used to paying $200 a ticket for end-zone seats and 3-4X that for everything else with the schools paying for unsold tickets. What a racket that is.

Those days are short lived. After 2017 or so, the NCAA will be a distant memory for top tier schools/conferences and they, not all the worthless strap-hangers, will be taking in the cash associated with Bowl games. That's the way it should be under any new set of rules.

[entropy]

Wall Street Journal:

Fans of Nebraska sports will emerge from their annual nine-month hibernation on Aug. 31 to watch the Cornhuskers football team take on Wyoming. This is a joyous time in Lincoln, because there is seldom much to cheer about during the football off-season. Particularly in March.

While Nebraska football has enjoyed consistent success and is ranked No. 18 this year, the Cornhuskers men's basketball program has always been thoroughly mediocre. It has never won a game in the NCAA tournament and last made an appearance in 1998. (The Huskers did win an NIT title in 1996. Woo-hoo!)

This got us wondering: Which schools have the biggest discrepancy between football and men's basketball success?

To find out, we surveyed the all-time winning percentages for every major-conference school, compiling a plus-minus for each school's football and basketball teams.

After Nebraska, Michigan had the biggest drop-off from football to basketball. Although its basketball team made a run to the national title game last season, Michigan's all-time winning percentage on the gridiron (.734) overshadows its hardwood results (.579).
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Alabama may seem an obvious candidate for lopsided football success. But the Tide basketball team has been quietly not terrible. Alabama has won 71% of its football games, but also 62% of its basketball games.

On the basketball side, Kentucky has the best winning percentage in NCAA history, but its best years in football were when Bear Bryant was coaching the team (1946-53).

It is easier for basketball teams to pad their records because they play more easy opponents. However, strictly by wins and losses, Minnesota is the most balanced program in college sports, with the same win-loss percentages—to the tenth of a percent—in football and basketball.
—Kevin Trahan

A version of this article appeared August 21, 2013, on page D6 in the U.S. edition of The Wall Street Journal, with the headline: We Have a Basketball Team?.

[entropy]

Today In NCAA Injustice: A Grieving Player Is Benched

Two family members dying in two months didn't strike the NCAA as hardship

By Sean Gregory @seanmgregoryAug. 21, 201317 Comments

































The NCAA is at it again — this time they’ve gone and benched a grieving player. And this one’s a doozy, even for an organization seemingly blind to the most basic optics.

Under NCAA rules, if you’re an athlete who transfers from one school another, you have to sit out a year (never mind that coaches regularly hop between multimillion-dollar jobs without a break). But athletes can apply for a “hardship” waiver to this rule. Bronx native Kerwin Okoro lost his father and brother last season in the span of just two months. His dad died of a stroke in December, and then his brother died of colon cancer. Okoro decided to transfer from Iowa State, where he played basketball, to Rutgers, in order to be closer to home.

To avoid having to sit out a year, Okoro applied for a hardship waiver. And losing two immediately family members in two months sure would seem to define hardship. But as the New York Post and Newark Star-Ledger reported, the NCAA denied the waiver, likely because the hardship rules apparently just apply to sick family members. Not those who pass away. Okoro tweeted:

Not a single person would complain if the NCAA let Okoro play right away. Or if Donte Hill, a guard for Old Dominion University, could just close out his college career. The NCAA has ruled that Hill used up an entire year of eligibility because he played eight minutes during a scrimmage while he was a sophomore at Clemson University, back in 2011. Playing days over, because of eight measly minutes in a game that didn’t count for anything.

The NCAA keeps making these kinds of mind-boggling decisions. Let’s just take the last three weeks. First, the Johnny Football affair: News broke that Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel, the Heisman trophy winner who, according to one study, was worth $37 million in publicity value to his school last season, allegedly signed autographs for money. He’s the subject an NCAA investigation, and possible discipline. This news shined a brighter light than ever on the fundamental flaw of major college athletics: The revenue sports, football and men’s basketball, are swimming in cash, while stars like Manziel don’t see a sliver.

(MORE: Johnny Manziel Could Change The NFL’s Age-Limit Rule)

To make things worse for the NCAA, ESPN commentator Jay Bilas, a former Duke hoops player and vocal critic of the organization, showed that even though the NCAA is not supposed to sell jerseys with a player’s name on it, when you typed “Manziel” into a search function on ShopNCAAsports.com, guess what jersey appeared on the screen, available for up to $64.95? A No. 2 Texas A&M shirt. Manziel’s No. 2. After Bilas’ critique went viral, the NCAA temporarily shut down the site, saying it would no longer sell college and university merchandise on its online shop, but “NCAA championship merchandise only.”

Then, there’s the Marine. The NCAA had initially ruled Steven Rhodes — a Marine sergeant who finished five years of active service this summer, and a walk-on football player at Middle Tennessee State University — ineligible this season because he played in a military-only recreational football league for parts of two years. For some reason, that’s against the rules. After yet another public backlash, the NCAA reversed course again; a military vet will immediately be able to pursue his football dream.

While it would be nice if the NCAA’s arcane rules didn’t create such messes, at least it’s cleaning up some mistakes. Let’s hope that habit continues for Okoro and Hill.


Read more: http://keepingscore.blogs.time.com/2...#ixzz2ci35tDl4

[entropy]

http://btn.com/2013/08/22/how-much-would-you-pay-to-attend-a-game-this-much/

How much does it cost to attend a game..

[Mike]

That's just too goddamn much.

[Ghengis Jon]

Oh come on Mike, its 'dynamic' pricing! (Biff! Zap! Pow!) It's 'competitive'! It's, it's, it's cuz everybody else is charging this much...

[iam416]

Sure to draw the ire of M fans: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bonus/2013/08/22/nick-saban-urban-meyer-set-coaching-gold-standard/2682083/

There's no doubt that the most epic title matchup this season is The Nick vs. Urban. That would not end well for Ohio State, but that chatter will and storyline will start to really take off if Alabama beats aTm (and then cruises to Atlanta) and OSU gets into the middle of October undefeated.

[lineygoblue]

Any article in which the quotes of Lou Holtz are used to establish its validity, can be easily and justifiably disregarded for horribly obvious reasons.

[iam416]

Holtz's quotes aren't used for that; massive on-the-field success is used for that and is glaringly obvious to almost all. Though, obviously, not to those who insist No-Titles is a better coach than The Nick.

[THE_WIZARD_]

Why do you hate old, slobbering, incoherant buffoons liney?