The Rest of College Football

[Jeff Buchanan]

Delaney's position on this is that (1), you have to be in the top six AND (not or) (2), be a conference champ.

UCLA, the PAC10 Champ, un-ranked and at 6-6 in 2011, would not have been in the play-off.

I think this works.

[entropy]

saw this post..


Champions of Big XII and SEC to meet in bowl game if neither in title game [re: ]
05/18/12 09:52 AM Edit Reply
Announcement later today...

[whodean]

Sugar = Rose

[iam416]

The Power 4 are making their play, IMO. If, and this is a big if, but if they agree to a plus 1 after the bowls, then they've completed it. They will have created a system where the Rose and Sugar winners have the inside track to the title game each year.

[whodean]

I think one of the the Big12 or SEC Champs have been in the National Championship game every year for the last 10+ so its probably unlikely to actually happen any time soon

[Hannibal]

Bullshit. Take the top four and finish it in two weekends.

Which four? Do they have to be conference champions? If not, then do you have enough confidence in the voting system to determine whether the 2nd place team in conference X is better than the winner of conference Y? What about when the conference champoin is ranked lower than the 2nd place finisher? (Pac-10 in 2011). People often point out how unfair the current system is. Would it have been unfair for Oregon to have been excluded last year in favor of the team that they beat? What if Boise State had an undefeated team like their 2009 squad? What if Wisky had beaten OSU?

A four team playoff would have almost certainly produced the exact same result as the BCS championship game. Would that be an improvement?

[Wild Hoss]

I think one of the the Big12 or SEC Champs have been in the National Championship game every year for the last 10+ so its probably unlikely to actually happen any time soon

Agree...but I don't care for the coziness between the two leagues. If anybody was to snuggle up more with the SEC, I'd have preferred it was us.

[hack]

Fox reports. We decide.

[Tony G]

BCS National Champions by conference (1998?present)



SEC - 8 Tennessee (1998-, LSU (2003, 2007), Florida (2006, 2008-, Alabama (2009, 2011), Auburn (2010)
Big 12 - 2 Oklahoma (2000), Texas (2005)
ACC -1 Florida State (1999)
B1G - 1 Ohio State (2002)
Big East - 1 Miami (2001)
Pac 10 - 0 None (Thanks Reggie!)

[WM Wolverine]

How many of those NT's were won by programs who bend and/or break the rules by the likes of Saban, Miles and Cam Newton/Auburn? 5 or more?

That puts the SEC at 3...

I guess when you look at the other programs on that list and you see a lot of other programs that flirt with breaking the rules too; Ohio State (Jim Tressel), Oklahoma (pay for no-show jobs), Florida State (academic scandal where they had online classes just for athletes to keep players eligible), USC (Reggie Bush) and Miami....

It appears from the above list it pays to cheat, the above programs are the most successful in the nation and they don't seem to suffer much at all from their punishments when caught cheating. Penalties for cheating obviously are no-where near harsh enough.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Last champ to win a national title without cheating was clearly Michigan in 97!

[Tony G]

USC (Reggie Bush)

not so fast

[Dr. Strangelove]

Oh and today's Big12/SEC news makes it a little more likely that some teams may be looking for a way out of the ACC.

[iam416]

Last champ to win a national title without cheating was clearly Michigan in 97!

LOL. I think you mean the ONLY champ since 1948. I love this board.

I'd also like to take this time to applaud Coach Hoke. I mean, what he's doing with M when 119 other programs are rampantly cheating is just amazing. To paraphrase the legendary and legendarily non-bitter Phil Helmuth, if cheating weren't involved, M would win every national title.

[entropy]

Agree...but I don't care for the coziness between the two leagues. If anybody was to snuggle up more with the SEC, I'd have preferred it was us.

Not me. The SEC cheats. There is no reason to reward it