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[SeattleLionsFan]

Plus they are both fantastic academic schools.

[Hannibal]

It would increase the Big10's footprint into two populous states and the two schools might be more receptive to Big10 overtures than SEC ones despite being "southern". But if you guys are concerned you won't get to play Indiana in football enough, sure, it's a problem. You're the type of Big10 fans that fought hard as hell to keep Penn State out and screamed that college football was ruined forever the day a non-Big10 team stepped into the Rose Bowl.

If it's Michigan vs a shit program, I'd rather have a regional program that has some history with us (i.e. Indiana) than UNC or Virginia.

[lineygoblue]

Strangelove ... in case you haven't noticed yet, you guys are in the division that plays the two Indiana B1G teams every year, not us. We only get the Indiana schools on a rotating basis. And we get the toughest Indiana school (Notre Dame) every year. So, you are the last one who should be pointing fingers about weak scheduling.

When it comes to your comment about adding teams like UNC or Virginia, I just don't want the B1G's footprint to extend that far east. Carolina is an ACC team, or at most a SEC team. They fit that footprint better than being in the B1G. Virginia is a bit further north (not much), but I don't see how they fit the B1G footprint any better than UNC.

As I said before, I don't see what they bring in competitively in any sport other than basketball. And I don't see UNC or Virginia football fans hyperventilating with anticipation of their upcoming games in Minneapolis or Iowa City. And I doubt that Nebraska fans would be thrilled with having to trek to Carolina to watch the Huskers play.

[The Oracle]

It would increase the Big10's footprint into two populous states and the two schools might be more receptive to Big10 overtures than SEC ones despite being "southern". But if you guys are concerned you won't get to play Indiana in football enough, sure, it's a problem. You're the type of Big10 fans that fought hard as hell to keep Penn State out and screamed that college football was ruined forever the day a non-Big10 team stepped into the Rose Bowl.

What the fuck did we do as "fans" to keep PSU out?

[entropy]

What the fuck did we do as "fans" to keep PSU out?

obviously, not enough...:-)

[Rob F]

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Originally Posted by The Oracle
What the fuck did we do as "fans" to keep PSU out?


obviously, not enough...
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LOL, Ent!

As for your original comment, DSL, where's that coming from? I, too, don't remember a huge protest when PSU joined the Big Ten 20 years ago. Then again, how would you know anyway, since the internet didn't reach the hills and backwoods states such as N. Kentucky until the last decade or so...

[Rob F]

If it's Michigan vs a shit program, I'd rather have a regional program that has some history with us (i.e. Indiana) than UNC or Virginia.

Damn right! And, as others have already posted, not only does it NOT excite me when I think about Michigan playing VA or UNC, I'm sure there's even less excitement coming from teams further west, such as Minny, Iowa, and UNL. Screw "footprints", I'm a leg-and-butt man myself!

[Dr. Strangelove]

Michigan was one of the only programs that voted against admitting Penn State. I believe the other was Northwestern

[WM Wolverine]

B10 isn't expanding unless they land a ND and ND isn't leaving unless they are nearly forced into a conference...

Only other scenario I could see the B10 expanding is if the Big XII and SEC both wanted to go to 16 teams and implode the ACC; in such a scenario I could see the B10 taking whatever pieces of the ACC that they wanted.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Strangelove ... in case you haven't noticed yet, you guys are in the division that plays the two Indiana B1G teams every year, not us. We only get the Indiana schools on a rotating basis. And we get the toughest Indiana school (Notre Dame) every year. So, you are the last one who should be pointing fingers about weak scheduling.

When it comes to your comment about adding teams like UNC or Virginia, I just don't want the B1G's footprint to extend that far east. Carolina is an ACC team, or at most a SEC team. They fit that footprint better than being in the B1G. Virginia is a bit further north (not much), but I don't see how they fit the B1G footprint any better than UNC.

As I said before, I don't see what they bring in competitively in any sport other than basketball. And I don't see UNC or Virginia football fans hyperventilating with anticipation of their upcoming games in Minneapolis or Iowa City. And I doubt that Nebraska fans would be thrilled with having to trek to Carolina to watch the Huskers play.

I am just throwing ideas off the wall here. If the Big10 had the opportunity to snag those two teams and declined to do so because Nebraska fans don't want to travel to the DC/Research Triangle area once every 6 years, then that would be very foolish. (Nebraska recently played at Wake Forest, btw).

North Carolina is going to have a higher population than Michigan in the next census. Virginia will be close. I think those are attractive markets in which to push the BTN. UNC is one of the two most valuable basketball properties in the country and they at least decent in football.

If the SEC can add Missouri and make it work I don't think this is too bizarre. This assumes interest from those two schools, interest I only think they'd have if the ACC was completely falling apart. So extremely speculative.

[entropy]

IF... IF the BIG were to expand and ND was not going to happen, I'd honestly rather see NC than a lot of the other options discussed


That said, unless the ACC implodes, they are not leaving Duke.

[Dr. Strangelove]

This is all definitely based on IFs...UNC and UVA will only abandon the ACC if it's falling apart at the seams and no longer a tenable option. The academic side at both schools will be far more supportive of joining the Big10 than the SEC.

Notre Dame would be great but they are not joining a conference unless absolutely necessary...and I'm not sure that even then the Big10 would be their top choice.

[Dr. Strangelove]

And yeah I don't think UNC or UVA are homerun additions but if we do choose to add 2 or 4 more, I don't think anyone realistic is a "homerun". Except for Notre Dame, but I don't think that's happening.

UNC and UVA at least add two new states with surging markets. Adding more teams from the Midwest like Iowa State or the Kansas schools would just be adding mouths to feed.

[Tony G]

Syracuse would be a good add, hell, maybe even Rutgers

[whodean]

Neither are close to the top of the list.