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  • Originally posted by WingsFan View Post
    Get used to that kind of behavior DSL, Urban Liar had over 30 arrests during his watch at FL.
    The bulletin board material OSU has provided us on a permanent basis is, to use a Hokeian word, TREMENDOUS. Hoke's got a great good-vs-evil narrative here and if he sells it well his kids should be snorting fire for every game.

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    • Hoke can use the "aw shucks, come help me beat the evil genius approach". It will not take much effort to convince kids he's not Meyer's equal as a thinker or a coach and that he's at a natural disadvantage in the brains department.

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      • It will not take much effort to convince kids he's not Meyer's equal as a thinker or a coach and that he's at a natural disadvantage in the brains department.
        Now, if we can get Urban Meyer to believe that, we'll be fine.
        "The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, .. I'd worn them for weeks, and they needed the air"

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        • Well as for recruiting, the ``Hoke plans to retire here but certainly not within the next four years'' technique damn well better be used.

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          • I find as time goes on in the Hoke regime, that I am more and more disappointed in myself, that I was opposed to having this fine man as our head coach. And I mean every word of that. I used to think that we'd never find someone who could run our program with more class and integrity than people like Lloyd Carr, Gary Moeller and Bo Schembechler. I think Brady Hoke not only meets that standard, I believe he exceeds it in many ways.
            "The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, .. I'd worn them for weeks, and they needed the air"

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            • I think only Bo belongs on that list, and I don't think it's worth beating yourself up over. All we could really know about the guy is that it was a nepotistic hire and all we could do is take the word of several entitled and not-so-honorable program alumni that he was a deserving candidate. It made sense back then that he would be able to negotiate the cultural minefield in Ann Arbor, but nobody had any way of knowing that he was going to be such an awesome leader or that the school would suddenly open up and let him spend a bunch on a star coordinator. The difference with Hoke and RR is wide, but a significant percentage of it is how much they got to spend on their staffs.

              Overall, I'm absolutely delighted with him. UM got exceptionally lucky. Harbaugh probably would have squeezed out another win in East Lansing, but I'm definitely at the point where I'd prefer 15 years of Hoke to 5 of Harbaugh.

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              • Not sure this has been posted.... But, congrats and future good luck to Wayne State in the Div. 2 playoff finals.

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                • Yep. Good luck to Wayne State. They just sort of jumped up out of nowhere this year.
                  "The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, .. I'd worn them for weeks, and they needed the air"

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                  • ""The first thing we have to do is stop neglecting the fact that there's another school in the state that's a competitor," the Jayhawks' new football coach said by way of an introduction, "and go figure out a way to beat their butts."

                    Charlie Weiss to the basketball crowd at the game Saturday. His new "To hell with Michigan" mantra. Good luck fatboy!

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                    • Originally posted by hack View Post
                      I think only Bo belongs on that list
                      Only for those who have decided to retroactively hate Lloyd Carr because of what a one book says about him. Because we know, everything written in a book must be true.

                      Originally posted by hack View Post
                      The difference with Hoke and RR is wide, but a significant percentage of it is how much they got to spend on their staffs.
                      I have to disagree with that. While not bringing Casteel certainly hurt Rodriguez, we have no idea if he would have come for more money or not. And there was far FAR more wrong with Michigan under Rodriguez to just lay all the blame on his coordinators. And maybe his first defensive coordinator, who just happened to be JIM HARBAUGH'S defensive coordinator before Rodiguez hired him, would have bee a very good DC if he had been allowed to run his own scheme and not forced into the stupid 3-3-5.

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                      • Originally posted by Jamie H View Post
                        Wow, RG3 wins the Heisman over pre-season annointed-one, Andrew Luck.

                        Luck was very good, but RG3 was incredible this year. I caught a few of his games and he WAS Baylor. Without him, I'm not even sure they were a .500 team.

                        Congrats to RG3. I'm sure Luck is bummed, but he will feel better come draft day.
                        Luck is overhyped. He throws marshmellows.

                        On an individual basis, Griffin is the last guy in the country I would want to see suited up against my team.

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                        • Is that why you left the Big 12?

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                          • RG3 is a unique talent. I think he throws a great deep ball and can make the yards with his legs. I also enjoy his interviews. He says a lot of the right things.

                            I'd rather see nebraska face luck than RG3
                            Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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                            • watching the SMU story on ESPN again. Even the second time I am shocked by the level of blatant cheating.
                              Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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                              • Jamie,

                                1. ``Everything written in a book must be true'' is a pretty damn weak excuse for that. Bacon's book isn't the only source. It's just the most comprehensive one. We didn't need it to note LC's exceptional and unbecoming behavior, so what you wrote has no rhetorical power in any way.

                                2. RR probably would have failed anyways but he would have done better had he been given the resources and support Hoke has been given. Are you gonna deny that?

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