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[entropy]

I have a hard time believing Nebraska fans have anything to worry about, Penn State fans are in general some of the most humble I've across and the students ire isn't directed at Huskers anyway.

I was there in 2002. I'll never go back.

[entropy]

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[paul daugherity]

I saw a tweet last night on the Big Ten netwrok from a Penn State fan that read something like, "If you didn't go to PSU, you wouldn't understand."

I thought it was an amazingly insightful, although probably inadvertantly so, tweet. The only other people who might get "it" is someone from Jonestown or Waco. It seems like there is some cult of JoePa out there, where he has been deified and can never do wrong. And that I don't get.

Sure, Joe may deep down be a decent human being. And unquestionably, he has done a lot of good through charity and had a huge positive impact on former players. However, he knew something was off with Sandusky, and people can quibble about what exactly he was told McQuery saw, but anybody with an I.Q. above 70 would put 2 + 2 together and huge red flags should pop up. As such, Joe made a decision about how to handle Sandusky, and he has to face the consequences for that decision. The decision was flat out wrong, put innocent and vulnerable kids at risk unnecessarily, and caused a lot of harm. The consequences are that, even if he built that program, he forfeited his right to choose how he goes out. That is what these vombie cult followers don't get. And unfortunately, I don't think they ever will get it, even if Jesus Christ himself came down and told them that.

[WM Wolverine]

He 'was' a legend a week ago.

[hack]

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...est-penn-state - that helps a little bit.

[Mackenzie]

Does anyone know if McQueary was married and/or had children at the time of the incident. Have done a little research but have not been able to find anything that mentions a family. Just curious.

[lineygoblue]

I understand how they are feeling at Penn State. If a story like this broke right before Schembechler retired, forcing him out, .. I would have felt horrible.

But, the bottom line is, its not a football issue. Its a legal and moral issue. Paterno at the very least, knew that it was possible that criminal activity was happening in his football program. For him to just make a non-chalant referral to the Campus Police chief, and not follow up on it, is inexcusable. Especially since Sandusky had a previous history.

All the nice things that Penn State fans want to believe about Joe Pa are still true today. There are a lot of good things that he has done for their university and their community. In this case, he failed, and has to pay the price.

[paul daugherity]

I would have felt horrible too about Bo, if that had happened Lines. And disappointed, in the sense that you realize even your heroes have failings and are not god-like. However, I would not have rioted in the street, or demanded that he be allowed to coach another game. Contrast the PSU reaction to the OSU/Woody reaction. Did OSU fans riot, or did they realize that while disappointing, he had to go? (And I am in no way comparing the Woody punch to what went on with Paterno, just that they were both beloved legends that were fired, and not allowed to leave on their own terms.)

Like I said, the reaction has been cult-like. It is very odd.

[hack]

Yes, it must be very difficult to process and I'd hate to go through that as a fan, and in particular given that there is a good case for remembering the good Paterno's done. Doesn't change the facts, though. Were I a parent of any of those students I'd be giving them a good talking to about keeping stuff in perspective.

[SeattleLionsFan]

Shit some folks refuse to believe Carr undermined RR.

[whodean]

the reaction has been cult-like. It is very odd.

The reaction from non-Penn State people has been a bit hysterical too, I've heard things like they should they should cancel the rest of their games, the NCAA should impose the death penalty, the little boys were being pimped to all Penn State donors, etc. Some have latched onto the issue a bit too strongly.

[hack]

The ``how I would feel if it was MY kid'' factor is just so huge.

[entropy]

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...est-penn-state - that helps a little bit.

he asks a lot of questions why.. I have an answer: You're a bunch of white trash punks.

[lineygoblue]

The ``how I would feel if it was MY kid'' factor is just so huge.

Boom. There it is.

If it were my kid, I'd be in jail right now, because I would have hurt Jerry Sandusky.