M-Borg vs. THE Flavortown U Thread, Orig. by Buckeye Paul, absconded w/by talent.

[Hannibal]

Talent -- if issue 3 passes in Ohio, do all employers need to rewrite their substance abuse policies to accommodate pot usage? e.g my employer conducts random drug tests and if pot shows up you are fired immediately. This also true of prescription drugs for which you do not have a valid prescription. But if pot becomes legal to consume then can an employer still legally fire you using it if they find it in a random test?

[iam416]

Hanni:

It could be a real clusterfuck. But, yes, I think you're going to have to adjust all policies re pot use.

What will be really interesting is if Issue 2 AND Issue 3 pass. Issue 2 prohibits monopolies re pot and would directly contradict Issue 3. The Secretary of State has taken the position that because Issue 2 will be in effect earlier, it will trump Issue 3. Further, I understand that the ballot will make it very plain that issue 3 is granting monopolies.

I don't much are one or the other, but I think it's fucking ludicrous that marijuana growth is limited to very specific parcels of land that, in effect, grant quasi-monopolies to a select number of growers who, btw, are pouring tons of cash into this thing.

Medical marijuana would pass easy. Issue 3 will be close.

[Prime2]

Barrett is 20-years old.

While the rest of the nation will be rolling their clocks back soon, Urban Meyer and the Ohio A&M AD are not afraid to rollback or in this particular case forward, depending on the need.

[Cody_Russell]

Yea again, underaged drinking, DUI, and a car from a car dealer = just one game suspension?

IDK the history of other situations like this, but I would think this is severe.

[Hannibal]

Hanni:

It could be a real clusterfuck. But, yes, I think you're going to have to adjust all policies re pot use.

What will be really interesting is if Issue 2 AND Issue 3 pass. Issue 2 prohibits monopolies re pot and would directly contradict Issue 3. The Secretary of State has taken the position that because Issue 2 will be in effect earlier, it will trump Issue 3. Further, I understand that the ballot will make it very plain that issue 3 is granting monopolies.

I don't much are one or the other, but I think it's fucking ludicrous that marijuana growth is limited to very specific parcels of land that, in effect, grant quasi-monopolies to a select number of growers who, btw, are pouring tons of cash into this thing.

Medical marijuana would pass easy. Issue 3 will be close.

Better than complete illegality, no? I don't get why the "monopoly"' aspect makes much of a difference.

[iam416]

I think better than complete illegality.

Regarding monopoly angle, this short blurb sums it up ok:

Yellow Springs is a small college town in Ohio that has more than one head shop and a lot of tie-dye and hemp.

Many would consider it ground zero for likely supporters of the referendum on the ballot this November that could make Ohio the fifth state to legalize recreational and medical marijuana.

But the proposal is drawing some unusual opposition — and it's coming from residents who generally support legalizing marijuana.

Samantha Van Ness is among them. While she's all for legalizing marijuana, the 25-year-old says she's dead set against the amendment that will be on the ballot.

"I would rather take the minor misdemeanor fine than let someone have such a massive monopoly in my state," she says.

And that's the word lots of liberals and old hippies in Yellow Springs don't like: monopoly. Many people who generally support legalization have a problem with the group ResponsibleOhio that's pushing this initiative.

That's because it specifies just 10 locations in the state where growing pot would be allowed. And 10 groups of investors already have dibs on those sites.

These same investors are sinking $20 million into the campaign. So in essence, they are paying to try to amend the Ohio Constitution to grant themselves pot growing rights.

[Hannibal]

I'm sorry but that's just fucking dumb. Textbook "good as the enemy of perfect." The black market stuff will probably still be there anyways and you won't end up with a criminal record if you are caught with it. Not to mention you know it's not going to have any other bullshit in it. It will probably be cheaper too since it can legally be mass produced. I'd argue that it might even be a gateway to further deregulation. If the vote fails then there won't be another chance.

And you can still grow for your own use if I'm not mistaken.

[iam416]

You can grow for personal uses and possess up to half a pound or some ungodly amount.

[SeattleLionsFan]

I don't know Ohio law, but employers in Colorado and Washington can still have anti-pot policies.

[WingsFan]

" Nine Strong** that's* a Tim Tebo that's a JT Barrett** - They do it!" . Above The Line.... lessons in leadership.* That's what he said this week from the clip I just posted****** lmfao !! Such irony...

UFM was everywhere yesterday. I mean, he's URBAN F. MEYER.

Dude should have stayed in Columbus,* instead of going around trying to make money promoting his new book. Preaching his 'new'* holier than now attitude on his team's morale and such. Then his starting* quarterback gets arrested -* before the* NEXT game.*

When the cats are away the mice will play.

Go back on Bill O'Reilly and explain the punishment and how severe it will be for breaking these precious ( Aaron Hernandez) family rules. Lol can't get an better this weekend!

[iam416]

JTB is, by all accounts, a great leader who screwed up. The funny thing is that JTB was at a HS game earlier in the night, took pictures and signed autographs all night -- well after the game was over. And then apparently had some drinks and elected to drive home. Apparently, you equivocate that to murder, but that's you.

UFM handled this, at a minimum, the same way Coach Hoke handled Glasgow and harsher than Harbaugh did when Glasgow flunked his probation.

But, you knew that.

In any event, exchanges like this make that game in November all the sweeter.

[Prime2]

Yes Meyer sure has a lot to answer for. To this day, Hernandez remains the #1 suspect by the Gainesville Police in that double attempted murder where AR pulls up alongside 2 teenagers at a light and shoots them both in the face, miraculously they survive as he speedsoff. Apparently for " disin' " AR at a bar earlier where he had been drinking underage too. Meyer picked him up from the station then concocted an elaborate smokescreen to keep him on the team and eligible to play.

Had Meyer done the right thing back then, a shitload of people would still be alive today.

Michigan looks flat and mortal against Minnesota and now Talent begins to sport a chubby over the prospect of victory on November 28th!

LOL.
The Harbaugh will be ready!

[iam416]

I'm glad you returned after stomping off. That's a good read!

[iam416]

I forgot about Fitz Touissant...anyway:

Shortly after J.T. Barrett was arrested for operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated, Ohio State announced that the quarterback would be suspended for the Buckeyes' next game, Nov. 7, against Minnesota.

This was a first offense for Barrett, and since it was an alcohol violation, the school's alcohol/substance abuse policy dictates that Barrett must enter a management program. Beyond that, no suspension is mandated by program policy.

This is an important distinction: Urban Meyer was not obligated to suspend J.T. Barrett, but did so, anyway.

Given the reaction by some fans – particularly fans of other programs – and some in the media, condemning Meyer for being too lenient, it's worth looking at what other schools have done in similar situations.

Most recently, Oklahoma State wide receiver Jhajuan Seales was arrested for DUI on Oct. 19. He was suspended for one game and reinstated by Mike Gundy.

Arkansas tight end C.J. O'Grady was picked up for a DUI on Aug. 28. His coach, Bret Bielema, welcomed him back to the team after a one-game suspension.

New Pitt head coach Pat Narduzzi saw two of his players busted for driving while intoxicated. Star wide receiver Tyler Boyd and defensive end Rori Blair were each suspended for the Panthers' season opener before returning to the team.

Sensing a pattern here?

Two years ago, after Alabama defensive back Geno Smith was reinstated by Nick Saban following a one-game suspension for driving under the influence, AL.com's Kevin Scarbinsky noted that one game is the norm across major college football for this kind of offense.

Stanford linebacker Shayne Skov was cited for DUI in January of 2012. Coach David Shaw suspended Skov from all team activities until June and then suspended him for the 2012 season opener.

Michigan running back Fitz Toussaint pleaded guilty to a DUI in the summer of 2012. He was suspended for the first game of the season against Alabama, then reinstated for the second game against Air Force.

Oregon defensive lineman Isaac Remington was arrested in October of 2012 for suspicion of DUI. He was suspended for one game, then reinstated when the local prosecutor decided to drop the charge.

Yep, that's definitely a pattern.

As Scarbinsky points out, it's tricky to compare discipline from one incident to another, but there certainly does appear to be a quasi-standard, one-game suspension for driving while under the influence, particularly, if it's a player's first offense.

Barrett will serve his time and hopefully learn from this incident. And Urban Meyer isn't doing anything that other coaches have done when faced with similar situations.

And, of course, Michael Floyd got a DUI and didn't miss a single game. And Glasgow.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Is that from an article?