M-Borg vs. THE Flavortown U Thread, Orig. by Buckeye Paul, absconded w/by talent.

[JRB]

It's really hard to run tempo on offense when you're 2-12 on third down.

[iam416]

Hoss:

Washington and Bennett were immense inside against the IZ, as well as the other guys they shuffled through there. Absolutely.

Wiz:

Harbaugh only beat Oregon once and even then he gave up 42. Shaw has had some success, though, especially last year on the Farm.

[entropy]

Kinda. OSU did a great job of stretching those out by winning the edges, which essentially gives the pursuit a shorter distance to traverse. That makes a guy look faster...in an even footrace, or with the edges caved, who knows. But as I said, there's more to it than that; OSU had the wheels to stalk and prevent the cutback too, which I doubt OR expected. Pursuit has to be fast, but also under control...like slowplaying the option really.

The other aspect is that OSU did an amazing job stopping the IZ game with basically 3 players. Like defending the option, it works inside-out; if the OLB/Apex defenders are looking outside first, because they aren't concerned about the TB racing up the hash behind them, they get a head start. In the opposite case, they are tailchasing.

OR's ability to consistently gash people on those plays with those small OL and no lead back has always puzzled me. That should be priority No. 1 when playing those guys.

You're describing a team that trusts its speed. I've seen a lot of teams that think they are fast run to the sidelines out of control. This creates cut back lanes. OSU had the speed and trusted it. And when you add to it they controlled the edges with their DE's, and the inside run with just 3 guys, OU had few options left in the run game.

[Tom W]

The only benefit you might get is we saw the Big Ten was much better than it was given credit for. But that was already established before last night. There is the Big Ten winning and the aftermath of the initial tournament. OSU nearly didn't get into it and it was clear they were the best team. It's a new era.

Not to play the homer card, but a large part, if not the biggest part, of the Big Ten looking weak has been that one of it's perrenial heavyweights has been floundering around trying to find themselves for the last 7 years.

[Hannibal]

The Big Ten's reputation of being a festering pile of maggot-infested shit was rightfully earned and highly deserved up until a couple of weeks ago.

[Hannibal]

Casual football observers, pay attention to this lesson. Saban built Alabama on the principle of being really good at running one or two plays. Last night was a classic example of the value of that approach. This is NOT Mike Debord sending Mike Hart off the back side of the left guard over and over and over, it is modern football using constraint as a means of making something work well.

I'm baffled that more CFB offensive coordinators and head coaches seem not to understand this and, instead, choose what they consider to be leading edge plays ..... a lot of them intended to confuse a defense, finesse a defensive linemen or LB or develop mismatches with chicanery.

This game was a beat down. It demonstrated the irrefutable value of simply wearing down the opposing team with brutal and physical play up front. That osu scored, what, 21 points in the 4th quarter is a testament to that venerated view point.

I think you are going to see a lot of that from M going forward. It's what characterized M's (and osu's who continue this tradition) best years. They ran the football and they ran it well with the best offenses just getting better in the 4th quarter because the other team gives in.

OSU proved the benefits of a newfound approach to college football as well. It's Manball, but it's Manball that still stresses the defense and forces them to defend the field.

[whodean]

Fuck oLIEo and all it entails.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Virtue is rewarded once again. College football's dark days are over.

[Cody_Russell]

Holy crap! Me & Drew Sharp agree on something for the 1st time in a while!
Like I was saying yesterday:

Sharp: Title reflects better on Ohio State than Big Ten

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/columnists/drew-sharp/2015/01/13/ohio-state-college-playoff-drew-sharp/21696893/

[The Oracle]

That's a "no shit". How people root for OSU because it's best for the B1G is beyond me.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Some rights and some wrongs in that article. Urban is recruiting nationally...and I think Harbaugh and Franklin eventually will be too. There's less homegrown talent in our states (except Ohio) but there's going to be more passed over by the Big Boys than in the previous 10-15 years.

[froot loops]

Sharp is a troll and worse unoriginal.

[Wild Hoss]

It's really hard to run tempo on offense when you're 2-12 on third down.

What stops you from running up-tempo on 1st, 2nd 3rd down?

[Cody_Russell]

That's a "no shit". How people root for OSU because it's best for the B1G is beyond me.

Agreed.

It does give a perception that the B10 is better for a lot of people unfortunately. Like someone that casually follows college football might think now "Oh, Ohio State won the NC, the B10 conference is great." ... Really it's a conference that has been much more top heavy than other major conferences when it comes to production, talent/ recruiting, & coaching.
With that said, things should change with Michigan and Penn St most likely emerging into great teams. The bottom teams in the B10 (Purdue, IU, Illinois) are all getting better too. Over the next couple of years, the conference as a whole should be better.

However, the last 3 years have an elite Ohio State, elite MSU, & good Wisconsin.
That's basically it.
Ohio State is the product of elite talent & coaching.
MSU has argubly an elite coach and good recruiting. That elite coach has a great system for developing its players.
Wisconsin has had good coaching and good recruiting.

[entropy]

Sharp is a troll and worse unoriginal.

This. He's really desperate for recognition.


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