M-Borg vs. THE Flavortown U Thread, Orig. by Buckeye Paul, absconded w/by talent.

[hack]

True. Not appropriate, but true.

[Dr. Strangelove]

An undefeated OSU would not play for the title over a 1 loss SEC team

Probably wrong

[iam416]

Unquestionably wrong.

[lineygoblue]

Unfortunately I have to agree with the bucknut contingent...

I think an undefeated OlieO does get in over a 1 loss SEC. Meyer still has admirers within the coaching and media fraternities who would be sure he gets in at 13-0.

[Jeff Buchanan]

An undefeated OSU would not play for the title over a 1 loss SEC team

Wrong ..... change it to this and you have it:

An undefeated osu team would not play for the title against any other undefeated team in the #2, #3, #4 and possibly the #5 spots in the coaches/AP poll.

SOS is going to kill them in the BCS poll.

[Jeff Buchanan]

Decent effort. ..... They're not an elite team, yet. Best in the conference, but as for a BCS title, there's no real point to thinking about that until a bunch of other teams start losing.

Would agree with that assessment.

Can't say definitively what the Bryant loss means, but Roby did let a lot of stuff get by him and whoever Wisky's OC is saw that.

Don't know who watched the Georgia/LSU game but if you did, you almost saw the classic dumb shit coaching move associated with making the opponent's offense run a lot of plays and burn clock to score. Play your DBs off the LOS, nothing gets over their heads; LBs lose and at best a 4 man rush, at worst, and Richt did this, a three man rush with a really good LSU QB (Mettenger) sitting back there and plinking away playing pitch and catch with wide open receivers. Arggggghhhhh.

My Georgia friends watching this game with me were going nutz over Richt's conservative approach where, on that series, Miles called the offense and promptly put LSU back in the lead right after Georgia scored a go ahead TD with 5m left. Georgia got lucky and Murray, GA's QB, played the game of his life to win it.

The reason I bring this up is that it seems a lot of coaches do this shit. It sucks and I'd like to see more coaches that do this kind of thing get dinged by it. Hokeattison does it and maybe there was some of that in osu v. Wisky late. On LUS's and Wisky's last possessions with LSU a FG away from tying, Georgia's D brought the house on every play. osu did too. The result? LSU and Wisconsin lost.

Why are we waiting until THE LAST DRIVE for this. Wouldn't you rather have the last drive being executed by YOUR team in a deflating drive to end it for the opponent? I would.

[Optimus Prime]

Complaint about Ohio Stadium: there are fancy, state-of-the-art scoreboards literally everywhere you look now. So why is it so difficult to show some scores of games from around the country more than once a quarter? And even then, only games going on at the same time? Instead the ribbon scoreboards show ads most of the time or generic "Go Bucks!" cheers

Must be kidding.

DSL, wishfully aspire towards Patek Philippe but fully understand you will never be greater than Timex.

[whodean]

If Alabama loses to LSU and wins all the rest of their games including the SEC championship game over a top 5 Georgia they would play in the championship game over an undefeated OSU with their tissuepaper schedule.

Similarly if LSU runs the table (including beating Alabama and a rematch over Georgia in the SEC championship game) they would go over OSU

Also if Georgia runs the table including beating either Alabama or LSU they would go over OSU

The Big10 has a huge image problem, the nation sees it as a joke beyond OSU

[Optimus Prime]

Including Ohio, please.

[hack]

As much as whoDean loves to bash the B1G, and whether those comments are thoughtful or not, in the end what's going on here is that the SEC is akin to a child whose parents do not establish boundaries. The behavior will get worse and worse until somebody steps in and mandates something more appropriate. We're going to start to see these types of arguments from people with SEC sensibilities, to put it kindly, and they won't stop until the system is rigged to the fullest extent that it can be. The system needs to deny the SEC what it wants and endure the ensuing temper tantrum. If it can.

[hack]

The Big10 has a huge image problem, the nation sees it as a joke beyond OSU


This, however, is not true. It's just something SEC people repeat in late November and early December.

[iam416]

An Ohio State team that has won 25 straight games will not be left out for any 1-loss team. They will be ranked ahead of every 1-loss team in both polls by a considerable margin. So, 2/3rds will be OSU. The computers will have to make up a lot of ground.

[Jeff Buchanan]

.......The system needs to deny the SEC what it wants and endure the ensuing temper tantrum. If it can.

I don't think it is black and white nor do I think things work that way with regard to the issues the conference commissioners are dealing with.

I heard a thoughtful interview by the President of the Athletic Director's Association, Purdue's AD, who has been very outspoken on a number of issues including stipends and conference alignment.

He said the ADs along with another organization of stake holders, have a number or proposals they have already agreed upon going forward to the NCAA. Not that this has much to do with the generalized problem assoicated with creating a level playing field but it highlights how these guys think and act. They seek small, incremental steps, those steps being arrived at by consensus/committee.

I don't see Delaney or anyone else doing a smack down on the SEC/Slive as much as we'd like for it to happen and as much as those f'er's need one.

[hack]

That's how it worked for the LSU-Alabama rematch. The SEC interprets the rulebook as heads we win/tails you lose, and precedents or other guidelines mean different things in different years. It works for them. If OSU goes undefeated and doesn't get the title game, I guarantee you in the future, the very next time a 1-loss team has a chance against a B1G undefeated we'll hear how this set a precedent in general. Reverse the situation and the SEC will interpret the potential precedent narrowly has having to do with SOS.

I don't think there needs to be a smackdown per say, or some sort of public confrontation. Things can be done behind the scenes, and with this sort of thing probably is done that way more than we know.

[whodean]

The Big10 has a huge image problem, the nation sees it as a joke beyond OSU


This, however, is not true. It's just something SEC people repeat in late November and early December.

OSU versus the SEC is a long time joke, and they are the "class" of the Big 10.

The Big10 needs to win some big games to re-establish it's national identity.

But of course, the SEC cheats (just keep telling yourself that is reason 1-10 why the Big10 isn't treated fairly)