M-Borg vs. THE Flavortown U Thread, Orig. by Buckeye Paul, absconded w/by talent.

[Tony G]

On another note, I think this can only help us with the NCAA

assuming the amputation was in time to prevent the blood poisoning from spreading. We'll see if the stench of rotting flesh continues

[Hannibal]

Same junk, different day. You've got scant evidence but recycle it constantly.

LMAO. Um, no. The evidence is anything but scant. The only thing that has been keeping you guys out of trouble for ten years is the lack of an outside factor that led to the discovery of it all. For our basketball program, it was Maurice Taylor flipping his Explorer. For you guys, it was Tatgate.

Enjoy your assfucking at the hands of the NCAA. The under/over starts at the USC level of punishment.

[lineygoblue]

Here's the number one reason Michigan fans hated and feared Jim Tressel: he beat Michigan again and again and again. And did it with a caveman offense.

And here's the reason that O-Lie-O State is the brunt of jokes in college football today, and their coach has resigned in disgrace. Because the ONLY thing that matters in Columbus, is what their Schmucknuts do against Michigan. Its why Luke Fickell will only be a one year coach, if he loses to Michigan in November. Its all about beating Michigan. Rules don't matter, winning gracefully doesn't matter, .. showing class on and off the field doesn't matter, how your fans behave doesn't matter. ALL that matters is "scoreboard".

Well, you got scoreboard. Congratulations.

NOW, .. the billing statement has arrived. Its time to pay up.

From what I understand, Tressel will still have to appear before the NCAA to give his account of the events that led to all this. Not sure how that "helps" with the NCAA. It may take away one avenue of punishment (your coach must resign), but I doubt that its going to bring a lighter punishment simply because he walked away.

[Dr. Strangelove]

LMAO. Um, no. The evidence is anything but scant.

Enjoy your assfucking at the hands of the NCAA. The under/over starts at the USC level of punishment.

Oh I will enjoy your severe disappointment when our punishment is meted out. I will enjoy it quite a bit. And your questioning the existence of a god when Fickell beats Saint Hoke ("Jim Tressel is a good man that I admire").

[Dr. Strangelove]

And here's the reason that O-Lie-O State is the brunt of jokes in college football today, and their coach has resigned in disgrace. Because the ONLY thing that matters in Columbus, is what their Schmucknuts do against Michigan. Its why Luke Fickell will only be a one year coach, if he loses to Michigan in November. Its all about beating Michigan. Rules don't matter, winning gracefully doesn't matter, .. showing class on and off the field doesn't matter, how your fans behave doesn't matter. ALL that matters is "scoreboard".

Well, you got scoreboard. Congratulations.

From what I understand, Tressel will still have to appear before the NCAA to give his account of the events that led to all this. Not sure how that "helps" with the NCAA. It may take away one avenue of punishment (your coach must resign), but I doubt that its going to bring a lighter punishment simply because he walked away.

And no matter how much you try to deny the truth, Lloyd Carr was forced out. The great, great man Lloyd Carr was forced out at Michigan. Why? Because he wasn't winning enough and was losing to Ohio STate consistently.

"Lloyd Carr could've kept his job for life if he wanted it...the fans adored him"...please. Most of this board was extremely weary of Carr by 2007. Don't revise history. And don't tell me Michigan wouldn't replace a Mother Theresa if she ain't winning.

[Ghengis Jon]

The under/over starts at the USC level of punishment.

LOL!!!!

Bu-bye! Let the gnashing of scarlet and grey teeth begin!!


The great, great man Lloyd Carr was forced out at Michigan. Why? Because he wasn't winning enough and was losing to Ohio STate consistently.

DSL, kudos to you for sticking around here during these dark days for osu, unlike other osu posters. But your statement here is nonsensical sour grapes. Lloyd Carr retired because he lost the bellyfire to coach as he battles the onset of Parkinson's disease. Forced out? Get a grip on reality.

F**k osu.

[lineygoblue]

And no matter how much you try to deny the truth, Lloyd Carr was forced out.

Believe that if you like, Strangelove. I can't stop you.

Fact of the matter is, Carr could still be coaching today, had he wanted to. And there wasn't anyone who could have stopped him. Bill Martin, Mary Sue Coleman, Dave Brandon, ... nobody.

He would have only been a figurehead by now, but he'd still be the man if he wanted to.

He wanted to leave, and he did, of his own choosing.

[Dr. Strangelove]

The under/over starts at the USC level of punishment.

LOL!!!!

Bu-bye! Let the gnashing of scarlet and grey teeth begin!!

Another chump setting himself up for disappointment.

[Jeff Buchanan]

I think Smith is next .......

Yes, this is going to help osu by sparing the NCAA from issuing a Show Cause Letter to tressel. That was part of the deal and has been an on-going negotiation between the NCAA and osu since the Letter of Allegations.

Very early on it was offered that the NCAA wanted osu to do the heavy lifting in exchange for lighter penalties ..... most specifically penalties that would hurt osu going forward (post season bans, scholarship reductions). I think they got what they were looking for.

I still don't think more penalties are out of the question yet. tressmess is now on even footing .... almost .... with USC. I still think tressel's lying gave the program a competitive advantage in 2010. The existence of benefits given to improve the likelihood that osu would attract top talent during tressel's reign, while unproven, seem pretty certain. tress built a recruiting machine; osu SHOULD be punished going forward for creating that.

Vacated wins in 2010? Yes.

Scholarship reductions? Likely but not certain.

Post season bans? No.

[*JD*]

I hope Coach Fuckhole runs a cleaner program. Maybe he'll give those in Columbus a coach to be proud of for a change?

[The Oracle]

Hard to say right now. I don't think all the info is out there just yet. This is a long way from over.

[*JD*]

Sorry about the language, gents.

[Dr. Strangelove]

I think Smith is next .......

Yes, this is going to help osu by sparing the NCAA from issuing a Show Cause Letter to tressel. That was part of the deal and has been an on-going negotiation between the NCAA and osu since the Letter of Allegations.

Very early on it was offered that the NCAA wanted osu to do the heavy lifting in exchange for lighter penalties ..... most specifically penalties that would hurt osu going forward (post season bans, scholarship reductions). I think they got what they were looking for.

I still don't thick more penalties are out of the question yet. tressmess is now on even footing .... almost .... with USC. I still think tressel's lying gave the program a competitive advantage in 2010. The existence of benefits given to improve the likelihood that osu would attract top talent during tressel's reign, while unproven, seem pretty certain. tress built a recruiting machine; osu SHOULD be punished going forward for creating that.

Vacated wins in 2010? Yes.

Scholarship reductions? Likely but not certain.

Post season bans? No.

Some realism injected by one Mr. Buchanan. This is definitely a more likely outcome now that the show cause is off the table. Those expecting SMU or USC penalties will be heartbroken.

[*JD*]

How much did it help USC that Carroll fled?

[Hannibal]

tressmess is now on even footing .... almost .... with USC.

Tressmess is worse. Was Pete Carroll caught lying on an NCAA compliance form and did he play five ineligible players for a year? Did he have a record of cheating that dated back two decades to a previous school? The NCAA might not find enough proof to punish OSU as hard as USC, but as far as the level of cheating going on, from where I'm sitting, it looks like OSU is worse.

Keep in mind that USC has publicly stated that they are going to monitor this and make sure that everyone else gets treated fairly. In other words, if they got hit with the NCAA hammer, they are going to push to ensure that OSU does too. I don't think that Tressel's resignation makes a difference at all.