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  • Crime DOES pay.

    For better or worse, Tressel fits the mold of a university president

    SI.com Rosenberg
    Youngstown State just hired Jim Tressel as president, and some would argue that Tressel is the wrong man for the job. Me, I think he's perfect. He excels at saying one thing while he does another, pretending he cares only about education, and insulating himself with acolytes who believe, despite ample evidence, in his purity. That describes a lot of university presidents in 2014.
    Now Tressel can talk about "helping young people" (one of his favorite phrases), and he can unite a community (something he does frighteningly well), and maybe nobody will notice how absurd this is. I mean, the man is so ethically sketchy that he would have to beg the NCAA for permission to coach a team, but running a university is just fine.
    ZAC ELLIS: Jim Tressel named the new president at Youngstown State
    Who else would even try this? Most disgraced coaches would either go into TV (like Bruce Pearl) or try to find another coaching job (like ... well, also like Pearl). But Tressel is different from most coaches. He wants to be seen as a mentor with bigger priorities than winning football games. This would be admirable if his actions backed it up.
    Now Tressel can watch Youngstown State games in the DeBartolo Stadium Club, named for the DeBartolo family, who have been big Youngstown State boosters for a long time. Eddie Debartolo Jr. (convicted of bribing former Louisiana governor Edwin Edwards) later started a sports agency which landed prominent Ohio State players Troy Smith and Beanie Wells, but of course Tressel knows everything was done above-board, because he monitors these things, except when he doesn't.
    When Tressel coached Youngstown State, trustee Mickey Monus provided nearly $10,000 and the use of automobiles to star Ray Isaac. It seems like the head coach should know when a university trustee is paying his starting quarterback.
    Tressel says he didn't know, and nobody has ever proven he did. But we do know this: Monus testified that Tressel asked him to get Isaac a job. The NCAA inquired about illegal payments in 1994. Tressel convinced everybody nothing had gone wrong, and Youngstown State avoided NCAA penalties for another six years.
    That is when Tressel -- who doubled as athletic director -- released this statement:
    "As a member of the NCAA, it's incumbent upon YSU to understand and comply with all NCAA rules. Unfortunately, as happened in this case, all parties did not. We now need for this to serve as a lesson well-learned for all past, present and future student-athletes and representatives of YSU athletic interests."
    Tressel should have finished his statement with "LOL!" As any college football fan knows, in his final year at Ohio State, several of Tressel's players broke NCAA rules by receiving extra benefits. Tressel knew about it, and in a bold display of leadership and ethics, decided to win some football games.
    He told nobody about the violations, which was not surprising to many of his fellow coaches. Tressel has a habit of turning off the lights and then claiming he was left in the dark.
    GEORGE DOHRMANN: The fall of Jim Tressel
    Of course, this time the lights went back on, the NCAA hit Ohio State, and Tressel was forced to resign.
    Could you see this coming? Well, in 2003, The New York Times published a story alleging serious academic fraud in Tressel's program. Almost two weeks later, Tressel was asked about this at the Big Ten football media day in Chicago. He could have said the story was wrong. He could have acknowledged mistakes. He did neither.
    He said: "I have to be honest. I didn't read it."
    Clever, no? As a reporter, how can you press a man for answers about a story he says he didn't read? Tressel pulled his usual media act from there, slow-playing his answers and serving one platitude after another. He was the coach of the defending national champs. Ohio loved him. If he didn't seem worried about The New York Times questioning the integrity of his program, Buckeyes fans wouldn't worry, either. And they didn't.
    Tressel is many things, but at the top of the list is this: He is patient. This is how he won so many of his games at Ohio State -- he never panicked, and he was comfortable waiting until the fourth quarter to pull out a victory. It is also how he managed to wade through so many controversies without drowning.
    He never lashed out at Maurice Clarett, who repeatedly talked about rules that were broken during Ohio State's 2002 national-title run. Tressel did not want to make those stories any bigger than they already were, or prod the media into digging deeper. Anyway, Tressel could burnish his own reputation, and neutralize Clarett, by slowly pulling him back over to his side. That is what he did, brilliantly.
    Tressel is not beset by the flaws we normally associate with corrupt coaches: Hyper-competitiveness, paranoia, temper, insecurity. He seems to believe in his virtuousness almost completely. If you had a great kid, you would do well to send him to play for Tressel. The coach would treat him well, teach him how to be responsible, and celebrate his academic and athletic success.
    And if the kid next to him got caught cheating, you might even believe Tressel was the best man to deal with it -- however he saw fit, regardless of what the rulebook says. After all, he is Jim Tressel, mentor to young people. Trust him.
    ?I don?t take vacations. I don?t get sick. I don?t observe major holidays. I?m a jackhammer.?

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    • Those articles are an interesting juxtapositioning of the various views of tressel.

      That is what he is .... mostly an enigma. Not to himself though. He does believe in his virtuousness. He is able to wade through the dark side of just about everything, in the end, coming up smelling pretty good.

      If I thought the NCAA was worth a shit, I might share Rosenbergs view. I don't because the NCAA is the most troubling institution in sports.
      Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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      • Heard an interesting fact; last MNC team to not have a first round draft choice the following draft was 2002 Champs OSU

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        • Yeah, most of that team returned in 2003 except for Mike Doss, Clarett, and a few others. The 2004 draft we ended up having three first rounders and 14 players were selected. I believe that's still a record for one school in a single draft

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          • Who's surprised?


            I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.

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            • The gray areas are where guys like Urban Meyer & Nick Saban do their best work.

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              • It's not a gray area. It's a black and white area.
                Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                • I am so glad that we are not doing this and, instead, choosing to lose with honor. Bitching about how clever coaches find loopholes in (arbitrary and stupid) rules to kick our ass is more satisfying than winning.
                  Last edited by Hannibal; June 13, 2014, 09:02 AM.

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                  • I echo Hannibal's sarcasm

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                    • As do I

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                      • It's not even a loophole. The article said OSU had at least 140 different coaches working their camps. They paid them the same to attend.

                        If it's a way to get more and more coaches on campus, to meet them and build relationships with them -- I say huzzah. Puzzling why M wouldn't do it. Well, it may affect the bottom line.
                        Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                        Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                        • But it's not the "Michigan Way" (tm)

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                          • Originally posted by iam416 View Post
                            It's not even a loophole.
                            It's a loophole. Programs are giving money to individuals who can have substantial influence on recruits. It will get totally abused if it isn't being totally abused already.

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                            • It already is apparently, Ohio State being as wealthy as it is, is able to bring in coaches from all around the country (w/ a hint to bring their top recruits too) to teach at their camps. Something that programs like Iowa State, Wake Forest, Rutgers, Syracuse, etc can't.

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                              • Do you really believe those schools don't have the money within their athletic budgets to pay a group of high school coaches a few thousand each to come teach at their camps?

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