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M-Borg vs. THE Flavortown U Thread, Orig. by Buckeye Paul, absconded w/by talent.

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  • Its going to hurt Ohio certainly, how much is yet to be determined. USC doesn't seem to be the least bit fazed.

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    • Heh. There's a sign now on 1-94 just west of the airport. It's red, with gray lettering...

      "Liar liar, vest on fire".

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      • Eddie George has a good take on Tressel... reading between the lines, it would seem he wants to see the 'Vest canned.

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        • Full article if you click on the link below and scroll down to "Jim Tressel as Todd Mcnair."

          There are two lines in the detailed article comparing USC's Todd Mcnair who knew about benefits to Regie Bush for a year and lied about it to the NCAA and jim tressel that are important.

          They're bolded below. osu supporters of jim tressel should all have to read this article. jt may be a stand-up guy in your eyes; you can say that one misdeed shouldn't tarnish a decade of doing good. But the inescapable conclusion is that its pretty likely that the vest is going to get hammered by the NCAA with a Show Cause Letter. That osu could, like precedent indicates, retain him through 2011, for a multitude of justifiable reasons, is going to make osu the laughing stock of CFB.

          Enjoy! M had their day in the "sun" as the laughing stock of Division I football, now its osu's turn. At least M got laughed at for playing shitty football honestly.

          Suffer maggots.


          The inescapable conclusion is Tressel will be hit with at least a one-year show-cause penalty, as McNair was.

          Show-cause penalties are not all uniform, but McNair was totally prohibited from recruiting on- or off-campus?he was banned from so much as looking at teenagers who had put on shoulder pads?and had to attend a rules seminar. He wasn't totally banned, FWIW, and USC could have hypothetically kept employing him if they were in the business of carrying around RB coaches who couldn't recruit.

          Show-cause penalties also don't necessarily mean the coach hit with one will be fired. Wikipedia helpfully points out the case of Rob Senderoff, one of Kelvin Sampson's assistants. Senderoff loved him some impermissible phone calls but by the time the NCAA hit him with a 30-month show-cause penalty he had already been hired at Kent State. Since he was already there KSU did not have to fire him; he's actually their head coach(!) after the current guy left for Bradley. If Tressel's penalty is analogous to McNair's OSU will probably suck it up and try to get through it.

          Will it be? McNair's cover-up went on longer and featured a high-profile player but Tressel's eventually preserved the eligibility of six guys, not one, and if the COI is serious about "high profile compliance" being necessary for high profile violators the head coach of one of the most successful programs in the country brazenly flouting NCAA regulations is an acid test.

          I won't venture a guess as to what the result of that test will be, but the next couple years will be time for Brady Hoke to make hay in Ohio.

          Last edited by Jeff Buchanan; April 30, 2011, 07:17 AM.
          Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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          • You wonder why former players like kirk herbstreit or eddie george are so upset with the types of players associated with their football program? Here is a list obtained from the Department of Justice(not the ncaa) of items that were sold with the amounts given to players. The totals don't amount to much, but their pride of o-lie-o comes out loud and clear. I love the last statement- What's worse: ...

            If anything did go right for RR, it was not winning the tp sweepstakes.


            • Four 2008 Big Ten championship rings, sold for a combined $5,000.
            • Four sets of 2008 Gold Pants (commemorating a win over Michigan) sold for a combined $2,000.
            • A 2008 Fiesta Bowl ring sold for $850.
            • A Fiesta Bowl watch sold for $200.
            • A pair of signed game-worn cleats sold for $1,000.
            • A set of cleats, football pants, gloves and a Fiesta Bowl jersey sold for $1,000.
            • A pair of football pants, 10 gloves (four of them signed), a signed Ohio State ball cap, two signed football helmets and a pair of signed cleats exchanged for free tattoos.
            • A 2009 Rose Bowl plaque, a 2010 Rose Bowl watch and three pairs of signed shoes worn against Michigan that were apparently given away as gifts.
            • A 2010 Rose Bowl watch exchanged for a 2003 Chevy Tahoe purchased by tattoo shop owner Edward Rife for $3,500. (For which Rife also received four Rose Bowl tickets, although not the ring and game pants he was promised.)
            Including the value of the Tahoe, that amounts to a grand total of $13,950 divvied among four guys.

            What's worse: That the players put their careers in jeopardy by pawning off irreplaceable keepsakes, or that their price was so low?
            Last edited by geo weidl; April 30, 2011, 07:18 AM.

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            • This is what Herbie meant when he said osu should stop bringing in players like pryor and clarett.

              Clearly the message from the Fort (and the press covering it) has been that Hoke is about bringing things that are important to Michigan football back to Ann Arbor (perhaps an unfair indictment of RR but .....). Its going to be interesting going forward what kind of message comes out of c-bus in the wake of whatever happens to jt.
              Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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              • It sounds like there might be a split between the Cooper players and Satan Jim's $$$-eyes.

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                • They might have gotten a commit from a three star WR, but their five star RB re-opened his recruiting....
                  To be a professional means that you don't die. - Takeru "the Tsunami" Kobayashi

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                  • Maybe they should listen more to the Cooper players. They were the ones who won that NC in 2003.
                    "in order to lead America you must love America"

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                    • Indeed -- a 3-star WR is a big fish?

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                      • In other news ... Justin Boren goes undrafted in the NFL draft ...

                        I thought the Vest was going to put him in the first round ...

                        ... well, maybe he lied ... after all, lying is SOP and fully acceptable in Columbus ...

                        I guess being lied to is better than being called a lazy larda$$...
                        Last edited by lineygoblue; May 1, 2011, 01:05 AM.
                        "in order to lead America you must love America"

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                        • .... whereas Steven Schilling was drafted (albeit 6th round)


                          "Those who stay will be drafted"

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                          • And Jonas Mouton was drafted in the 2nd.

                            Well, maybe Momma Boren can bake some cookies to entice some NFL team to draft Zach Boren ...
                            "in order to lead America you must love America"

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                            • Well, Mr. Schilling and Mr. Mouton will never get to claim a win over OSU. But they did get drafted. And that's what is important at Michigan

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                              • And our coach has never been suspended for lying to the NCAA after he knowingly played ineligible players.
                                I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.

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