M-Borg vs. THE Flavortown U Thread, Orig. by Buckeye Paul, absconded w/by talent.

[SeattleLionsFan]

What? The national championship game is nothing, but not playing in the conference championship is ring worthy? Not even the folks too dumb to leave Ohio could believe that.

[iam416]

Facts are facts. If you can point to something M won, feel free. And, fact is Fab 5 won zilch and M football and hoops have won 1 title in the past 9 years/18 total seasons. Sorry.

And sorry OSU won more last season than any M football team since 2004 and put together a 12-0 season, which M has only done once on the past 100 years or so.

Bottom line is if M fans want to talk shit about rings, hardware and titles, they'll get destroyed. Facts are facts. Sucks for you.

[hack]

One thing facts are not, however: life promises to God.

[madootra]

Talent's arguments are akin to "Milli Vanilli was better than Led Zeppelin, because they won a Grammy'.

[Rob F]

They were, weren't they?

;-)

[WM Wolverine]

Two most important and toughest games of the season, Ohio wasn't eligible to play... Undefeated regular season against a cupcake OOC and a weak B10... Congrats!

[Rocky Bleier]

Rocky:

Why would the Fab 5 get a ring? Like this year's squad, they won nothing.

Similarities between Fab Five and Team Schmuck:

1. Both teams were populated by players who took benefits

2. Both teams won nothing

Differences:

1. Michigan took down banners

2. Schmucks made rings

[iam416]

Two most important and toughest games of the season

Well, the bowl game would have only been important if it were the BCS Title game. Otherwise, no. As for toughest, you're right, playing Nebraska would have one of its two toughest games. LOL.

But, again, Ohio State went 12-0. M has 1 undefeated, untied season since the Truman administration, and has won 12 games twice in its entire history.

Since 2005:

Ohio State: 6 B10 football titles (out of 8 seasons) + 1 Leaders Division crown!
Michigan: Zilch

Ohio State: 5 B10 basketball titles and 4 B10 tourney Titles
Michigan: 1 B10 title

All in all, the past 8 years have season Ohio State collect 15 B10 crowns and 1 Leaders Crown, and Michigan 1 total.

As always, just the facts.

Of course, maybe things will change this season. Maybe Coach No-Titles will finally claim a title. I doubt he goes 0 for 11 seasons. Maybe M hoops will win something in the B10. It's possible. That is the eternal hope for the M fan -- that things will change and get better. Heh.

[iam416]

2. Both teams won nothing

Sorry. You're just wrong.

1. Both teams were populated by players who took benefits

Boy, wrong again. This time you're even shitting on M. Webber was the only player proven to have taken benefits. Granted, he was a star, but still, it's singular. As for Ohio State, Jordan Hall is, I believe, the only player on last year's team that took benefits. And he played something like 2 games last season. LOL.

I love watching M fans try to make factual arguments. It's hilarious because the facts are sooooooo f'n bad for them.

[Rocky Bleier]

Schmucks won nothing:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1429256-big-ten-championship-nebraska-vs-wisconsin-live-scores-analysis-and-results

[iam416]

The B10 disagrees:

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/111712aac.html

Facts be facts.

[iam416]

I mean, I can understand saying, "you just won the division title, that's a trivial accomplishment, etc.". Of course, Coach No-Titles hasn't even won a divisional title, yet, so....

But, to say they won "nothing" is, well, just factually dead wrong. I mean, I get it -- it's a quintessential M statement. It's what you folks do. And who knows, if I had to deal with such bad facts, maybe I'd make shit up to. Fortunately, I don't.

[Rocky Bleier]

Congratulations to the Schmucks for winning the Big Ten and defeating Stanford in the Rose Bowl!

[iam416]

You can't even admit when you're wrong. It's sad. Then again, it's probably a good move as it'd take up a lot of your time.

[Rocky Bleier]

Just getting on the same delusional page as you. Can you send me a Rose Bowl t-shirt?