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M-Borg vs. THE Flavortown U Thread, Orig. by Buckeye Paul, absconded w/by talent.

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  • Huge Wire fan here as well.

    It can be a challenging show to get into as the story is written and edited together unlike most other shows on TV. It's much more similar to the experience of getting into a book with a long setup, complicated characters, many interweaving storylines, etc. where you have to read a few chapters before deciding this is a good experience. Much different than most shows on television that hit you first with an entertaining hook and then develop the show (not a criticism necessarily of the norm, just a difference - Lost comes to mind as an example of a well-written show that's much more grounded in hooking you on entertainment). The show treats the audience like adults and trusts that you'll invest the time necessary to become engrossed.

    What I love about the show is how each season adds layers to already complicated societal issues and shows how decisions in a seemingly unrelated area can have huge impacts elsewhere. Also love how it challenges the ideas of good vs bad and the economic loops that people get stuck in combined with the forces that keep them down.

    A show that just explores those issues could be quite bland. What makes The Wire truly special is how it can demonstrate that complexity in an extremely entertaining way.

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    • Michigan Wolverine and buckeye folk, finding common ground! What is the world coming to????

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      • Anyway, I even learned how to make pit beef and tiger sauce because of the show -- a happy incidental benefit, I might add -- delicious!

        Really Kip?



        Agreed HBO is simply the best. Managed a few Wire episodes midstream but frankly little interest, it's imperative to start with season one, I guess I'll buy them. Character development is paramount and obviously takes several episodes.

        Rome, Deadwood & Boardwalk Empire are simply the best IMO, DVD collection must. AMC's Breaking Bad is nothing short of spectacular as well.
        ?I don?t take vacations. I don?t get sick. I don?t observe major holidays. I?m a jackhammer.?

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        • Breaking Bad is a really good show.

          Deadwood was very good, and Al Swearingen simply off the charts brilliant.

          The Wire, in this viewer's opinion, has them beat.
          Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
          Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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          • I think this particular Swearingen talk is spot-on for OP and other M fans caught up in the shitstorm of the past 10+ years:

            [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Q7YRDL90E"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Q7YRDL90E[/ame]


            It certainly seems to be OP's creed....which I appreciate
            Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
            Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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            • I would have thought that Rome if any would have drawn me in given my set of interests but it just didn't. Found myself not really caring whether I continued on with it or not.

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              • Rome was horrible. I am completely baffled as to how that shitfest got the acclaim that it got. That was the worst written series that I have ever seen on television.

                I have tried the first couple of episodes of Deadwood, and so far my reaction is "meh".

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                • In the end, IMO, even these very good shows can only be so good. Still the same basic formula of overacting, obvious clues and signals and clumsy character development.

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                  • Want to see a quality opponent? It'll cost you...

                    I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.

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                    • Originally posted by Optimus Prime View Post
                      Anyway, I even learned how to make pit beef and tiger sauce because of the show -- a happy incidental benefit, I might add -- delicious!

                      Really Kip?



                      Agreed HBO is simply the best. Managed a few Wire episodes midstream but frankly little interest, it's imperative to start with season one, I guess I'll buy them. Character development is paramount and obviously takes several episodes.

                      Rome, Deadwood & Boardwalk Empire are simply the best IMO, DVD collection must. AMC's Breaking Bad is nothing short of spectacular as well.
                      Deadwood was awesome. Breaking Bad is my favorite.

                      I wouldn't buy the wire.. netflix them.
                      Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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                      • Really happy to snag a win last night. If they show up and play well in Lincoln, they should be 7-2 in the conference.

                        They likely have two losses coming up after that. But, if they can sweep nFw, split with Minnesota/MSU at home and beat Illinois at home (hopefully, the wheels are still off), then they finish 11-7. If they can nick IU at home or Wisky on the road or do the Sparty/Goofer double, that's 12-6. I firmly think 12-6 is no lower than a 5 seed and likely a 4. 11-7 is probably a 6 seed.
                        Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                        Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                        • People are talking about Michigan getting a 1 seed if they end up 14-4, so I can't see 12-6 being worse than a 4. We got a 4 last year at 13-5, but we had 8 total losses on the season IIRC. A few of them were pretty crappy ones, and we had some unimpressive victories against bad teams.

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                          • I think they would be a 4, but they don't have enough quality wins at the moment. They'll rack up quality losses (+ the Illinois shitfest loss), but that doesn't move the needle.
                            Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                            Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                            • 12-6 gets you a 4 seed, I'd agree.

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                              • Obviously Terry Porter wasn't working that last play in the Super Bowl on the Niners 4th and Goal...
                                Shut the fuck up Donny!

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