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M-Borg vs. THE Flavortown U Thread, Orig. by Buckeye Paul, absconded w/by talent.
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They didn't end up with a better coach. Tressell was a friggin amazing coach and there was no unsavory behavior to which he wouldn't stoop. Meyer's a great coach and certainly cut from the same cloth, and Ohio certainly has the worst karma of any football program ever for lucking into him at this point. But Tressell was an exceptionally good cheater, Meyer's not necessarily a long-term solution and even the doddering old version of Lloyd beat Meyer. Meyer also had Tebow for most of his time at Florida, and Tebow is proving to be, somehow, an exceptionally special player. And Meyer doesn't have any sort of mystical hold over Michigan, as Tressell did. We now have confirmation that it was the unfair advantage that comes with cheating, but Michigan no longer has to slay that beast -- it killed itself and Michigan can move on in this new era. Meyer is going to have to beat us without a lot of the advantages Tressell had, and therefore he's not going to have a decade of dominance. He's not even going to be around for a decade.
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Originally posted by hack View PostThey didn't end up with a better coach. Tressell was a friggin amazing coach and there was no unsavory behavior to which he wouldn't stoop. Meyer's a great coach and certainly cut from the same cloth, and Ohio certainly has the worst karma of any football program ever for lucking into him at this point. But Tressell was an exceptionally good cheater, Meyer's not necessarily a long-term solution and even the doddering old version of Lloyd beat Meyer. Meyer also had Tebow for most of his time at Florida, and Tebow is proving to be, somehow, an exceptionally special player. And Meyer doesn't have any sort of mystical hold over Michigan, as Tressell did. We now have confirmation that it was the unfair advantage that comes with cheating, but Michigan no longer has to slay that beast -- it killed itself and Michigan can move on in this new era. Meyer is going to have to beat us without a lot of the advantages Tressell had, and therefore he's not going to have a decade of dominance. He's not even going to be around for a decade.
2) Deliberately misspell Tressel's name? Check
3) Chalk up Tressel's outstanding record entirely to cheating? Check
4) Hint that Meyer won't be long at OSU? Check
5) Hint that Meyer's past success is owed entirely to Tebow or his assistants like Mattison? Check
6) Refer back to LLLLLLoyd's win over Florida in 2007 as being evidence that Michigan will beat Meyer while completely ignoring that it was a Mattison-coached defense that was shredded that day? Check
You've hit all the right notes and Michigan Man memes in a mere paragraph of sewage. Well played, sir
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Well, lets look at these a bit closer.
1) Deliberately refer to THE Ohio State University as "Ohio" because you think this irritates the THE Ohio State University fanbase? Check
2) Deliberately misspell Tressel's name? Check
3) Chalk up Tressel's outstanding record entirely to cheating? Check
4) Hint that Meyer won't be long at OSU? Check
5) Hint that Meyer's past success is owed entirely to Tebow or his assistants like Mattison? Check
6) Refer back to LLLLLLoyd's win over Florida in 2007 as being evidence that Michigan will beat Meyer while completely ignoring that it was a Mattison-coached defense that was shredded that day? Check
... but he will NEVER allow his guys to be unprepared for Michigan, now will he?Last edited by lineygoblue; December 28, 2011, 12:50 AM."in order to lead America you must love America"
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Talent already refers to you guys as the "Bobcats", so there's got to be just a tad of irritation there. Ergo, mission accomplished
You kind folks made my point for me on the other thread by mocking how weak "Bobcats" was. Heh. I found that hilarious, too. It's always so much more fun to get other people to make your point for you.Last edited by iam416; December 28, 2011, 08:21 AM.Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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Bowl ban for '11 would've hurt your recruiting for '12 a lot more than a bowl ban that was just announced will hurt your '12 recruiting class.
The timing thing -- well, one way to look at is that OSU got to secure most of its class (and will add some good ones after it, too). But if they had it OSU earlier, then it's even better for OSU b/c it's a 2011 ban and nothing in 2012.
I'll be surprised if he's there five years from now. Especially if he loses 3 or more games to Michigan. And that is entirely possible.
As for the rest of the nonsense from your fine "Michigan Men," heh, wow....if irrationality is a measure of fear, I've never seen a fanbase more petrified of a coach. God, I love the future of OSU football!Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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I can't speak for the entire "fan base" of Michigan, but for this fan, I don't fear Mr. Meyer any more than I feared Mr. Fickell.
Reality is going to be a bear for some M fans.
And, I think its just as big a mistake, if not moreso, for the OlieO fan base to look at Mr. Meyer in the same way. If this is the expectation for Mr Meyer in Columbus, then reality is going to be a bear for OlieO fans as well.
I think the future of Michigan football under Coach Hoke is in the best hands its been in since Schembechler retired, and for me, that's very exciting. Coach Hoke and his staff have brought a new energy to Michigan football, and a new focus that will make Michigan a formidable opponent from now on. I think Coach Hoke is not only going to be tough on Saturdays from September thru November, but will also be tough in everything else he's required to do from December thru August. We haven't had that in a long time."in order to lead America you must love America"
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I think its a huge mistake for Michigan's fan base to blow Mr Meyer up into some kind of unbeatable football coaching machine that will toy with Michigan like a cat does with a mouse.
Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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I'll believe Hoke is what some think he is when he gets a streak going again against osu.
Thus, the jury is still out until around 6PM, the 24th of November, 2012.
One thing I will give HokeMattison credit for now is their potential for landing some big time recruits going forward. If the turnaround from 2010 to 11 with respect to player performance is an indicator, the entire staff has the ability to motivate and develop players far exceeding anything M has had in a decade, maybe more.Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.
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Tim Hinton will be OSU's TE coaches. He was at ND. Another Ohio guy.
That leaves O-Line coach to be filled. Fingers crossed that it's Studrawa, but won't know for two weeks, I guess.Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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