M-Borg vs. THE Flavortown U Thread, Orig. by Buckeye Paul, absconded w/by talent.

[iam416]

It would seem that the Miami game may be more winnable than originally thought. WooooOooOOOT!!!!! If they could somehow get to 4-1 to start the season, color me well-pleased. If they're 4-0 when they host Michigan State, color me very well-pleased.

[Optimus Prime]

This is very sad Talent, now you are cheering the demise of other corrupt programs in hope of leveling the playing field? I expected better...I guess the Probation Rivalry will be know as "The Convicts versus.....well, The Convicts"!

[hack]

Eh, I'm on DSL's side, in that if you're LC and you make that much noise about integrity, you should probably think that it sends the wrong message to be cordial.

[Jeff Buchanan]

Got a glimpse of this report at Rivals. Perhaps someone who has had the time to follow this story can comment.

Reportedly, in order to meet eligibility time lines for the NFL draft, pryor submitted documents to the NFL that state he told osu officials in May (2011 or 2010???) that he had received inappropriate benefits. osu is denying they were told this. Pryor's attorney, when asked about the osu denial, simply stated the documents pryor submitted to the NFL are accurate.

Anything new here?

[geo weidl]

This is the only thing i can find so far:

The NFL has postponed its supplemental draft, which was to have taken place today, so that the league can determine the eligibility of former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor. A new date has not been set.
“This is an encouraging sign,” Pryor’s Columbus attorney, Larry James, said yesterday. “Obviously, they are taking a look at it. The issue everyone seems to be wrestling with from our side is, when you read the rules, it seems pretty straightforward that Terrelle is eligible.”
To be eligible for the supplemental draft, an underclassman’s academic and/or playing eligibility must have changed in an unforeseen way since the deadline for applying for the regular draft passed in January.
Pryor, who already was suspended for the first five games of the 2011 season for receiving improper benefits from a tattoo parlor owner, left school on June 7 when the NCAA expanded its investigation into him.
Two sources told The Dispatch yesterday that the new investigation centered on his relationship with his mentor Ted Sarniak. The NCAA alerted Ohio State that Sarniak, a businessman from Pryor’s hometown of Jeannette, Pa., had to scale back his relationship with the quarterback once he enrolled in 2008.
The sources said that the NCAA was checking into a trip Pryor made to the Miami area during spring break in March that Sarniak might have helped arrange, along with other benefits that would be considered rules violations.
When pushed to provide explanations, Pryor instead opted to end his college career, the sources said.
The NFL is said to be privy to those details, though James would not confirm that.

[iam416]

Either TP told the NCAA about this stuff in May during his interview or he didn't. My sense of it was he alluded to it, but when pressed for details, refused to answer further.

[Optimus Prime]

Sure,

It appears OSU in the immortal words of Ricky Ricardo: "Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do!" circa 1951

[Mike]

I thought this was pretty funny.

Is Gordon Gee serious? ESPN the Magazine conducted an interview with ohio's president to ask him about his infamous remark "I just hope the coach doesn't dismiss me". The thrust of the article is that university presidents are essentially helpless in reigning in rogue players and boosters. Supporting testimony is offered by Donna Shalala - the president of the University of Miami, Florida: At Miami, president Donna Shalala personally hires each coach. She studies the NCAA rulebook and weekly compliance reports. During football games, she scours the sidelines for suspicious guests. "I'm on alert all the time," she says.

LOL

Birds of a feather...

http://www.detroitlionsforum.com/forums/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=5058

[Optimus Prime]

I think we will likely be putting a 2nd Buckeye Helmet up there if instinct serves correct as usual.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/michael_rosenberg/08/17/miami/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a2

[Optimus Prime]

Carr and Tressel: The MZone Transcript

SiC and Ex sent us the story about Jim Tressel and Lloyd Carr both showing up on the sidelines on the sidelines of a Cleveland Browns training camp practice.



JIM TRESSEL: "Lloyd, remember when I said I didn't sic those bomb sniffing dogs on your team bus? I lied about that, too."

LLOYD CARR: "No surprise. Hey, don't know if you heard, but I was just elected to the College Football Hall of Fame. So how's your summer going?"

JIM TRESSEL: "Well, I traded in my vest for the black cellphone holder I now wear here on my belt. Awesome, right? I just got a job in middle-management at Target."

[*JD*]

Or that he fooled Lloyd just like he is still fooling all the schmuck nut slappies?

[Optimus Prime]

NFL postpones Supplemental...not sure how to read this, suspect Goodall will wait "nice and long" before telling Pryor to wait until next year as his agent is threatening "Mo Clarett-style" lawsuits. Anyway, Washington Post summarizes very nicely:

It’s high time the NFL does the NCAA a favor by putting Pryor on ice until 2012 draft

By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, August 17, 4:32 AM

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is the last man standing between Terrelle Pryor and the NCAA version of yet another perfect crime.

The ex-Ohio State quarterback wants the commissioner to pencil him in on the league’s supplemental draft list because, well, for no other apparent reason than Pryor is used to getting what he wants.

And what he wants now is to play in the pros for real cash on Sundays, instead of the chump change, trinkets and discount tattoos he had to settle for playing Saturdays in Columbus, Ohio. We get that. Here’s hoping Goodell does, too, and that after postponing the supplemental draft scheduled for Wednesday to give Pryor’s case his full consideration, he says “no.”

Whoever first said cheaters never prosper apparently didn’t follow college football. It happens all the time.

Sometimes, as in Pryor’s case, it’s the players who game the system, load up on “improper” or “impermissible benefits,” and then flee to the pros before the NCAA enforcers can drop the velvet hammer on the schools they played for. That’s what reportedly happened at Miami — and not for the first time, either — where a jailed former booster used some of the proceeds from a $930 million Ponzi scheme to grease the palms of top-shelf players for most of the past decade. It may also explain why Cam Newton chose to wing passes for the Carolina Panthers this season instead of Auburn, which could still get stung because of the “pay-for-play” allegations Newton left in his wake and where, not coincidentally, perhaps, he had a season of eligibility left.

Then again, it’s hard not to root for the kids in plenty of these cases, if only because everybody else involved in big-time college sports — the schools, their coaches, athletic departments and TV partners — is on the take. The NCAA didn’t need to invite Division I university presidents to a retreat last week to remind them the integrity of the sports and even the reputations of the schools they lead are threatened when a newspaper clipping service would have sufficed.

After all, the same bunch has been ignoring calls for reform for three decades, largely because serving as the de facto minor league for the NFL has turned out to be a very lucrative business. Giving university presidents a nice hotel room and free meals for a few days is hardly inducement enough to make them listen now.

Goodell, on the other hand, can make a statement by denying Pryor eligibility for the supplemental draft, forcing him to wait until the regularly scheduled 2012 NFL draft.

Not surprising, Pryor’s hyperactive uberagent, Drew Rosenhaus, said that would be a tragedy. Hearing him make a case for his client, you’d think Pryor accomplished everything at Ohio State short of solving world hunger.

[Dr. Strangelove]

OP starting to get desperate, worried sick that attention may be turning from OSU to Miami.

OP has hope for the first time in 10 years, NCAA. Don't crush it before it really begin!!

[geo weidl]

I think OP has been right on all day.

Drew Rosenhaus, said that would be a tragedy

Another tragic hero, good grief.

[Rocky Bleier]

DSL's new battle cry: We aren't as bad as Miami!

Did anyone notice the dog and pony show College Football Live had about cheating and how to fix it? They actually had Nick Saban at one of the tables! Unfreakingbelievable.