M-Borg vs. THE Flavortown U Thread, Orig. by Buckeye Paul, absconded w/by talent.

[SeattleLionsFan]

I'll say that it's a good thing Pryor didn't go blue BUT he would have had 10000 yards in Rich Rods offense and two heismans.

[JRB]

If Pryor received anything like the amounts alleged in that ESPN piece, then Ohio State's in an even bigger world of trouble than I thought. It remains to be seen if there's hard evidence to support those charges, but it'll be awfully hard for Ohio State to avoid a lack of institutional control charge if one player made that much money as a student-athlete.

One thing is clear: the NCAA needs to ban the involved boosters from the Ohio State program permanently. Rachel McCoy may not have made the most judicious decision when she made her comments about Texas athletes taking improper benefits from boosters, but I'm pretty much positive that she spoke the truth, and that the truth she told could apply in some fashion to just about every major FBS program. A kid violates the rules when he takes impermissible benefits, and he deserves his share of the blame, but the bigger share of blame goes to the creeps that enable these sorts of shenanigans. Terrelle Pryor has learned he is not bigger than the Ohio State program. So has Jim Tressel. A lot of boosters across the country could stand to learn a similar lesson.

[geo weidl]

Am I wrong, but at the end of the clip they mentioned something about this happening in 2006 as well, before it stopped?

I think there is more to come.

Didn't think it would be that fast.

[madootra]

If Pryor received anything like the amounts alleged in that ESPN piece, then Ohio State's in an even bigger world of trouble than I thought. It remains to be seen if there's hard evidence to support those charges, but it'll be awfully hard for Ohio State to avoid a lack of institutional control charge if one player made that much money as a student-athlete.

One thing is clear: the NCAA needs to ban the involved boosters from the Ohio State program permanently...... but the bigger share of blame goes to the creeps that enable these sorts of shenanigans. Terrelle Pryor has learned he is not bigger than the Ohio State program. So has Jim Tressel. A lot of boosters across the country could stand to learn a similar lesson.

Is it possible to remove boosters whose live's revolve around the team as they do in Columbus?

[JRB]

I'll say that it's a good thing Pryor didn't go blue BUT he would have had 10000 yards in Rich Rods offense and two heismans.

If he had won two Heismans at Michigan, I suspect he would have had to give them back eventually, and Michigan would have had to vacate every game he played. I think there's a strong chance we're going to find out that Pryor was never eligible. As badly as Michigan could have used a QB of Terrelle Pryor's talents, I'm delighted Michigan didn't get Terrelle Pryor.

[Dr. Strangelove]

If Pryor received anything like the amounts alleged in that ESPN piece, then Ohio State's in an even bigger world of trouble than I thought. It remains to be seen if there's hard evidence to support those charges, but it'll be awfully hard for Ohio State to avoid a lack of institutional control charge if one player made that much money as a student-athlete.

One thing is clear: the NCAA needs to ban the involved boosters from the Ohio State program permanently. Rachel McCoy may not have made the most judicious decision when she made her comments about Texas athletes taking improper benefits from boosters, but I'm pretty much positive that she spoke the truth, and that the truth she told could apply in some fashion to just about every FBS program. A kid violates the rules when he takes impermissible benefits, and he deserves his share of the blame, but the bigger share of blame goes to the creeps that enable these sorts of shenanigans. Terrelle Pryor has learned he is not bigger than the Ohio State program. So has Jim Tressel. A lot of boosters across the country could stand to learn a similar lesson.

Yeah for the first time I think a bowl ban is now likely.

[geo weidl]

chance we're going to find out that Pryor was never eligible.

But o-lie-o has such high academic standards JRB.

[Dr. Strangelove]

chance we're going to find out that Pryor was never eligible.

But o-lie-o has such high academic standards JRB.

Michigan would have happily taken him if they could have gotten him.

[geo weidl]

Michigan would have happily taken him if they could have gotten him.

We dodged a bullet on that one.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Not always a great source but Sports by Brooks says the NCAA already has a paper trail connecting this Talbott guy (who OSU banned from the program in 2010) and Pryor

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/exclusive-ncaa-discovers-checks-to-pryor-29745

[JRB]

Is it possible to remove boosters whose live's revolve around the team as they do in Columbus?

It's certainly a penalty the NCAA can impose, and the NCAA has imposed such penalties in the past on boosters who broke rules to involve themselves with programs or individual players(e.g., Ed Martin). If Dennis Talbott gave Terrelle Pryor anything approaching the amount of money alleged in the ESPN piece, he ought not to be allowed to have anything to do with Ohio State athletics ever again.

On a related note, I wonder if a school would have legal grounds to sue a booster or agent whose actions brought about NCAA penalties. I don't know if Ohio State would have much of a case, but I'd think USC could have at least gotten a hearing if they'd gone after the sports marketers that got to Reggie Bush and his family.

[WM Wolverine]

It should be a crime for both the players and far more so the boosters who give these players/recruits the improper benefits.

[SeattleLionsFan]

It shouldn't be a crime for gods sake.

[lineygoblue]

Maybe not a crime as in something that a person can be jailed with, but there should be some sort of punishment that can be administered along the lines of breach of contract or something like that. When you agree to accept a scholarship, you should be legally bound to follow the rules of the school that issued it.

[lineygoblue]

Could be just piling on, but the hits keep on coming ...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6637444