Nebraska...not feeling Frosty anymore

[Wild Hoss]

14 seasons as Oregon State

Zero division titles

Zero conference titles.

93-80 record there.

Know how long it took Bill Synder to win win a conference championship?

14 years and Frank Solich.

Just sayin'...

[Wild Hoss]

My concern is that his teams have been heavily penalized in recent years. Undisciplined?

[Wild Hoss]

In an ESPN poll in September, with 97 of 128 FBS coaches responding, Riley was voted the No. 2 underrated coach nationally behind David Cutcliffe of Duke.

In voting among Power 5 coaches only, Riley tied for first with Michigan State’s Mark Dantonio.

[UMStan White]

"
Woah Hack, you're sounding more and more like Stan, habitually bitter and delusional.

Hell it's well past noon, I bet that loony alchemist consumed enough Zoloft and cheap Bourbon to sedate, well, a jackass.

Likely passed out on the couch in his office by now. "


God its great to be loved!

[hack]

I was about to say don't flatter yourself, but OP does after all live in Miami. Maybe he likes older men.

[entropy]

I even posted michigan volleyball pictures for you stan....

we adore you

[iam416]

I actually like Riley. I do think he's a good coach. And I actually think Hanni's point about "hot coaches" supports the conclusion. No one can really win big at Oregon State or even really win consistently. He's done a good job with resources he has. He's certainly not a splash hire and Grey Cups from nearly 3 decades ago don't count for much, but he's a good coach, IMO.

What would puzzle me as a Huskerz fan is his age. It seems like you could hire a number of coaches in his neighborhood of quality that are considerably longer. If he does turn out to be a big success hire, you get maybe 7 or 8 years of him.

[The Oracle]

What's the percentage of hires these days that go past that?

[Jeff Buchanan]

Beat me to it ......... In the current environment and circumstances a good (or bad) coach staying put for that length of time is a rarity.

[iam416]

Well, not if they're a good hire and a big-time program.

I can think of two big-time coaches that left big-time programs "early" -- Carroll and UFM.

Hoke would have been at M forever if he wasn't a god-awful hire.

Mack Brown was at UT for 20 years.

Stoops has been at OU for 15 years.

Lester has been at LSU for 10 years.

The Nick has already been at Alabama for 8 years with no signs of leaving.

Jimbo Fisher is already in his 5th season with no signs of leaving any time soon.

Richt-Georgia/Spurrier-South Carolina/Beamer-Vt.

I'd guess UFM will be at OSU for at least 8 years.

I mean, by and large, actually, if a big-time program finds a good hire they stick with him for awhile.

[iam416]

I also think James Franklin is a college guy and will stick at Penn State for awhile.

I also think the same thing about Malzahn, but I'm far more confident in Franklin sticking around (if he's good).

[froot loops]

The age thing is more than just how long could he stay, how hungry is he. He's not known for being a great recruiter, what kind of staff can he assemble.

[hack]

As for longevity, I certainly understand the desire to hire a guy who will have it. We focus on Michigan here, but many of these universities are so dynsfunctional and there's so much at stake that coaching searches look like the Upperclass Twit of the Year competition. Every time you have one it's a complete crapshoot. So on the odd chance you get it right, you don't want to have to do it again for a long time.

[Hannibal]

I actually like Riley. I do think he's a good coach. And I actually think Hanni's point about "hot coaches" supports the conclusion. No one can really win big at Oregon State or even really win consistently. He's done a good job with resources he has. He's certainly not a splash hire and Grey Cups from nearly 3 decades ago don't count for much, but he's a good coach, IMO.

What would puzzle me as a Huskerz fan is his age. It seems like you could hire a number of coaches in his neighborhood of quality that are considerably longer. If he does turn out to be a big success hire, you get maybe 7 or 8 years of him.

I think that he's sort of an uninspired hire, which becomes less excusable when you consider that Nebraska just fired a perennial 9-win coach. My opinion about Pelini was "Nebraska can do better but they can do worse too". Riley isn't clearly better IMHO. Solid isn't good enough in this circumstance. I'm not afraid that Riley will return Nebraska to their glory days.

One of the points that I was trying to make about hot coaches is that most guys fuck up by not leaving when their market value is at its highest, maybe because they are overconfident in their abilities to keep on turning chicken shit into chicken salad. Riley was at a high point when the USC job last came open. He probably should have jumped at that chance. Fitzgerald probably could have had a top notch opening recently. He has missed his window too.

[hack]

One of the points that I was trying to make about hot coaches is that most guys fuck up by not leaving when their market value is at its highest, maybe because they are overconfident in their abilities to keep on turning chicken shit into chicken salad. Riley was at a high point when the USC job last came open. He probably should have jumped at that chance. Fitzgerald probably could have had a top notch opening recently. He has missed his window too.

Which is why Michigan better be pretty careful with Mullen, if it comes down to that.