Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[iam416]

There’s a lot of clarifying going on.

[iam416]

And I’m honestly at the point where I can’t read any more details without becoming enraged. The babies thing…JFC

And they’re going to start executing hostages, including Americans, shortly. That’s guaranteed.

[Mike]

Same.

[THE_WIZARD_]

So how is The Chairman spinning his negotiations with the terroristic state of Iran now? Still justifying it?

[crashcourse]

thats why i think this maybe the final nail for the chairman.

He hasn't been exactly a hardliner with iran

Iran whom is ultimately responsible for hamas and hezbollah

another feather for trump to show the difference on how they approached the middle east

[THE_WIZARD_]

The media will protect The Chairman.

[iam416]

His statement today was good. He is misguided on Iran, but he was right today.

[Dr. Strangelove]

To lighten the mood a bit, this woman went from “serious moderate” to performance clown in an awful hurry.

[Dr. Strangelove]

[Mike]

His statement today was good. He is misguided on Iran, but he was right today.

I need to watch it because I’d like to have at least one decent memory of his presidency.

[iam416]

The law student who has a job lined up at a big firm is another one of those clarifying things — it’s one thing to declare support for Palestine in a vacuum on an ordinary Tuesday; it’s another to do it right after they dismembered babies. The former is at least arguably ambiguous; the latter is unambiguous.

[Mike]

After this football season I think I’m just done all together. Fuck this school.

https://www.michigandaily.com/student-government/csg-response-to-the-israel-palestine-conflict-draws-mixed-reactions-from-u-m-community/

[iam416]

Well, that was 2 years ago, I think. I mean, you’re still entirely correct in your proposed course of action.

[Jeff Buchanan]

Which ever side you come down on involving the 50 year pimple that is the Israeli/Palestinian conflict - the one where the pimple just burst - keep in mind that foreign agents are at work milking and encouraging the political divide that is tearing at the foundations of the nation.

Sure, 99% of social media posts, letters to editors and all of that, alleging support for Hamas may be an exaggeration. But make no mistake the era of lies and disinformation that spread like wild fires and associated with all forms of media, most critically social media, is being taken advantage of by our enemies.

[iam416]

Charles Cooke takes some extra words to express how confounding some people are, but they’re worth it:

As is increasingly common in our remorselessly overcomplicated age, the coverage of Hamas’s extraordinarily brutal incursion into the nation of Israel has been sliced and diced along a whole host of convoluted lines. When describing the various players, commentators have set them against a series of ideological axes: Left and Right, Zionist and anti-Zionist, pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli, the Settlers and the Displaced, and so forth. If I may be so bold, I would like to propose that these categories are wholly inadequate to the task before us and that, instead, we ought to be dividing the observers into just two camps. Into the first, we can place the normal human beings. Into the second, we can place the unreconstructed crackpots who have lost their godforsaken minds.

It is simply not within the normal bounds of human behavior to look at what has happened in Israel and to filter one’s instinctive moral reaction through whatever goofy, specious, ugly ideology one might have picked up in an overpriced seminar hall when aged 19. In their proper place, terms such as “colonialism,” “imperialism,” and “occupation” can be descriptively useful; as a response to the news that a bunch of armed savages have just massacred a thousand innocent people in cold blood, they are utterly, disastrously, spectacularly irrelevant. I daresay that, in certain faculty lounges and newsrooms, the latest iteration of the Unified Oppressed/Oppressor Matrix goes down a treat. To everyone else, it appears psychotic. Well-adjusted people do not read about surprise attacks that involve the machine-gunning of concertgoers, the live-streaming of executions, the beheading of babies, the raping and desecration of women, and the immolation of corpses and respond by musing about how intersectional the dead might have been. Well-adjusted people do not learn of the largest single instance of antisemitic butchery since the Holocaust and write open letters that “hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all the unfolding violence” against it, that describe the atrocities as an example of “inevitable” “resistance” that “made history,” or that cast Hamas as a quotidian political entity that is engaged in a “process of decolonization.” Well-adjusted people do not see the reams of harrowing footage that has been published and assume aloud that the most likely explanation is that the Israeli government staged a false-flag in order to protect its embattled prime minister. Such thoughts would never occur to them. George Orwell once said that “some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.” That there is anything much to debate about the egregious crimes that were committed in Israel over the weekend is among those “some ideas.” There is not.

Indeed, I shall go one further here and propose that it is not simply abhorrent to subordinate one’s elementary sense of horror to a set of esoteric abstractions; it is the prerequisite to barbarism. From time to time, students of history wonder how the great tyrannies of the past could have impelled so many ostensibly rational people to treat others with such brazen contempt. This question, I’m afraid, has a mundane answer: Those tyrannies persuaded their accomplices to do terrible things by insisting that the people to whom the terrible things were being done were lesser in some meaningful way. I have no doubt that many of those who are making excuses for Hamas are convinced that their dispassionate analysis is the product of an exquisite understanding of the world that the less credentialed conspicuously lack. I also have no doubt that they are wrong, for, in reality, such reactions are the grotesque product of a brainwashing process that has swapped the rudimentary building blocks of civilization for a set of monstrous self-justifications. It may be terribly bourgeois to believe that it is presumptively wrong to slaughter or rape or set fire to civilians, but, if we are to enjoy any semblance of stability in the world, it is also imperative. As sophisticated as we might fancy ourselves to have become, there will always be a place for the sort of pedestrian Manichaean dualism that rejects cruelty irrespective of its target. That the vast majority of human beings continue to believe this is not a problem within our society; it is our society. Sometimes, there really is just Good and Evil. On Saturday, when the Western world saw both, most of us were able to determine which was which. The remainder were not.