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Originally posted by lineygoblue View Post
Without Saudi Arabia's cooperation, Saddam would still be alive and ruling both Iraq and Kuwait.
But you'd like that, yes?
Been reading a history of the US-Iran conflict and it's fairly evident that Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and the UAE manipulated us into taking over their defense and entangling us way deeper into that part of the world than we ought to be. And throughout the 80's they were all playing footsie with the Soviets too, playing us off each other to get the best possible arrangement for themselves. I truly see little difference in the Saudis and Iran except the Saudis don't have a murder boner for Israel. If Iran ever overthrows the Ayatollahs and becomes somewhat normal again, fuck off and farewell to the Middle East.
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No, Kuwait started manipulating us before that. They wanted a big powerful country to protect its oil tankers from Iran in the Persian Gulf so they approached both the US and the Soviets with the same idea: let us fly your flag from all our ships so Iran will be scared to attack. In the end the US "won" the competition and we became the hired security for the Kuwaiti tanker fleet.
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Originally posted by WingsFan View PostThe Detroit News has endorsed Dixon. And I'm finally see commercials for the first time against Big Gretch. It might be closer than I thought, but I think Whitmer wins.
SE Michigan ballot counting is kind of like the "Bush Push" of Election Day.
"in order to lead America you must love America"
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Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View PostNo, Kuwait started manipulating us before that. They wanted a big powerful country to protect its oil tankers from Iran in the Persian Gulf so they approached both the US and the Soviets with the same idea: let us fly your flag from all our ships so Iran will be scared to attack. In the end the US "won" the competition and we became the hired security for the Kuwaiti tanker fleet.
You've been reading too many of my officiating posts."in order to lead America you must love America"
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Originally posted by lineygoblue View Post
Wow. That was some plan. And it actually worked.
You've been reading too many of my officiating posts.
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Originally posted by lineygoblue View PostSo, okay. You got me hooked. How did Kuwait trick Saddam into attacking? I want to see this.
Iraq and Saddam were still dear friends of the US while this was going on. One of Saddam's pilots bombed the USS Stark around this time, killed 37 Americans, and we pretty much did jack shit about it because there's only ever one great evil at any given time and that was Iran. Asked for less than $1M for each dead man. We blamed Iran for causing it because they had "started" the Iran-Iraq war (which wasn't true). Saddam gloated to his aides about how lightly Iraq had gotten off.
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Originally posted by lineygoblue View PostThat's good. Great spin.
If I ever run for office I want you and Jon to write my speeches for me. You will be the official spin doctor. Jon will be my press spokesman.
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