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  • Below raises good points about how McCarthy blundered by choosing to not participate. I know many of you think these hearings are a total snooze anyways, but imagine how less effective they’d be if every ten minutes a pro-Trump Republican could just talk about anything he liked?

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      • Fake picture. It would have had to have been a riding lawn mower.
        Shut the fuck up Donny!

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        • Sadly, starting to see anonymous pushback from "sources close to Secret Service" on the whole limo story.

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          • No way

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            • Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
              Sadly, starting to see anonymous pushback from "sources close to Secret Service" on the whole limo story.
              The limo story will turn out to be another fantasy.

              It is already hearsay, and wouldn't be allowed in a court. The Committee did depose the SS agents in the car, so why not lead with first-person accounts. How much better it would have been to have Republicans on the committee in order to cross-examine the witness. Jim Jordan would have put the lie to this whole production.

              And who is Gabriel Malor? Does he realize there is no filibuster in the House?

              Well, at least froot is having orgasms over this new bombshell witness.
              Last edited by Da Geezer; June 28, 2022, 07:15 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Da Geezer View Post

                The limo story will turn out to be another fantasy.

                It is already hearsay, and wouldn't be allowed in a court. The Committee did depose the SS agents in the car, so why not lead with first-person accounts. How much better it would have been to have Republicans on the committee in order to cross-examine the witness. Jim Jordan would have put the lie to this whole production.

                And who is Gabriel Malor? Does he realize there is no filibuster in the House?

                Well, at least froot is having orgasms over this new bombshell witness.
                He's talking about the Senate. The House voted to create a bi-partisan Commission with 35 Republicans voting in favor. That was the original John Katko-led deal that McCarthy originally agreed to. But then Trump heard about it and threatened any Republican to vote against it. That they still got 35 votes from them is pretty remarkable.

                But it died in the Senate and couldn't overcome a filibuster. The only Republicans who voted for it were the same ones that voted for impeachment.

                So then a while later Pelosi announced a Select Commission instead. It's been general practice for the minority party to pick its members BUT unlike all the permanent committees it's NOT a rule. By rule it's entirely up to the Speaker. Pelosi told McCarthy she was going to refuse to seat Jim Jordan and Jim Banks, but the other three were fine. McCarthy threw a fit and said if he can't name all 5 that he wanted, he would name no one.

                This was obviously a strategy first formed when the Independent Commission was still a possibility. McCarthy may have thought all investigations would fall apart if he refused to participate. But he was wrong, Cheney and Kinzinger volunteered to throw away their careers and the Committee was properly formed by House rules. And instead of having five Trump friendly members on the Committee, they have none. That was entirely by choice. And it was a dumb decision.

                But Trump himself bears blame too, not just McCarthy. He simply didn't want there to be ANY investigation.

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                • From this updated WP article, the least "anonymous" of the pushback so far:

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                  Three Secret Service agents who accompanied Trump are disputing that he assaulted or grabbed at the leader of his security detail or that he grabbed for the steering wheel, according to one current and one former law enforcement official familiar with their accounts. The agents do not dispute that Trump was furious and exchanged tense words with one of the agents, the two people said.

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                  The Secret Service Agents in the car are saying, and presumably would testify, that Trump didn't grab them or try to take the wheel. They do NOT dispute that Trump was furious that they wouldn't take him to the Capitol and perhaps had an unpleasant word or two for them.

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                  • Senator Jim Lankford of Oklahoma, who was looking like he was on the outs with Trump at one point (I forget why?), easily beat the MAGA chud facing him tonight.

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                    • Posted mainly for Jon. A judge already reduced the charges on the guy who viciously attacked Mayor Rudy. Only 3rd degree assault now, which is a misdemeanor, and even that might not stick. And now Eric Adams and Rudy are in a war of words

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                      • Boebert won re-nomination without much trouble. Her district under the new maps is a lot more Republican than it used to be. She's probably got a safe seat in Congress for a decade if she doesn't get caught fucking a congressional page or something.

                        Tina Peters, the crazy election denying Recorder of Mesa County, who allowed a dude associated with Mike Lindell to steal election data, is currently running a distant third place to be nominee for Colorado Sec of State. So that's some good news. Go be an assistant night manager at the pillow factory.

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                        • So this was the big "June Suprise"?

                          heh

                          "TRUMP WAS MEAN!. HE DROPPED AN F-BOMB!"

                          heh
                          Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                          • The thought of Trump leaning over the front seat to grab the steering wheel is hilarious. Can you imagine his fat ass trying to squeeze in there?! He’d be sore for a week!

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                            • Lee Zeldin is the best shot New York Republicans have of taking the Governor's race since Pataki left. He's still very much the underdog but he's got a decent shot.

                              And he beat Giuliani's idiot ginger kid so that's nice.

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                              • STFU
                                Shut the fuck up Donny!

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