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  • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
    I don't have the stats, but in Metro Detroit there are a large amount of schools that are school of choice. Homeless kids from Detroit can go to West Bloomfield and do go there. In Detroit I think you can go to any of the high schools. There are options.

    Believe me, I would cash the vouchers that reimbursed me for the over 100k that I have probably paid, but I don't think it's necessary.
    Am I understanding you correctly that you sent your kids to private schools?

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    • In war news, the Russians continue to pulverize what's left of Ukrainian infrastructure throughout the country focused on major cities. Damage at this point is about $68b worth. The human toll is staggering. This is nothing new for Putin. In separatist regions of Georgia, a former satellite state of the USSR, now seeking EU membership and has applied for NATO membership, a similar strategy was applied to two "separatist regions" there in 2020. The net result in both cases was to cause utter destruction of major city and some village life in Georgia and Ukraine. Moreover this destructive, inhuman strategy has simultaneously achieved the exact opposite result that Putin has sought in his Imperialist aggression. Meanwhile the west stands on the sidelines watching the slaughter of Ukrainian civilians while uselessly uselessly condemning Putin's savagery. Zelenski in response, rightfully condemns the west and it's institutions for their inaction in the face of horrific Russian aggression.

      In COVID news, the NYTs headline this morning is "The COVID Mystery." Why hasn't the introduction of BA.2 caused the same kinds of increased case numbers that Europe is experiencing? Frankly, what follows is the continuation of the historically wrong clap-trap of fear mongering that caused countries to collectively destroy the global economy and reduce the standard of living for many low to medium income citizens. My take is that, as I've posted in the past, SARS-COV2 has reached or is reaching it's infectiousness plateau. It was endemic months ago yet we're still officially in a global pandemic and affected negatively by PH emergencies are still in place. If it's not an explicit PHE, its the damage done as a result of those even expired PHEs to the human psyche that prevents a return to normalcy. We're long past encouraging citizens to determine their own COVID risks and act accordingly without governments telling us how. Yet, here we are.
      Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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      • This is how you rate, Joe.

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        • Ohio apparently will be following suit soon.

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          • What to do if you meet Froot IRL.

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            • Originally posted by Mike View Post
              This is how you rate, Joe.

              yeah 81 mill voted for this guy

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              • This Everton game is tense.

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                • Originally posted by crashcourse View Post

                  yeah 81 mill voted for this guy
                  False. 81 million voted against Orangeman Bad.
                  Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                  • Here's the thing ..... step back from this debate between those who support the notion that Trump had the election stolen from him and those that say that narrative is false (I don't think there is any doubt that it is). Looking at the forest from the trees, there is an enormous and growing divide between the political left and right. The left and the D party have moved closer to what used to be considered extremist progressive and socialist ideologies. Leftist, illiberal radicalism in all its colors has become normalized. The right and the R's starting with the Tea Party (an R party I can no longer associate myself with) have moved closer to the extremist right identifying with ideologies more closely with those of groups such as the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, more the former than the later. Right wing extremist radicalism has become normalized. In the legislative branch there are ideologues, ostensibly elected representatives, representing both sides. Rand Pail on the right, and "The Squad" and less threatening, Bernie Sanders on the left. Outside of that are public figures such as Sydney Powell and Ginni Thomas - outspoken conspiratorialists and advocates on the right. I can't come up with equivalents on the left as weird as those two on the right. Thy're out there.

                    Personally, I don't see the January 6th protest in Washington DC as the nothing burger some want to make it. I see it as an initial skirmish in the mounting likelihood of a second US civil war. The basis of a fight like this, possibly an armed fight that goes beyond words and sloganism, would be a normalized extremist right, predominantly authoritarian, nationalistic v. a normalized extremest left, predominantly socialistic .... and I don't need to list list both entrenched and emerging leftist, illiberal ideologies to readers here.

                    I listened to an interview done on a program I often listen to - Amanpour (discard your CNN biases. She is good). The interview was with Mike Giglio an independent journalist who was writing for The Intercept. Gigilo has been following Stewart Rhodes, founder of the Oath Keepers, for decades. After recounting his long history with Rhodes that goes back to the 90's, he lays out an argument that the Ideology Rhodes has been advancing for decades is seductively appealing and he sells it well. It speaks of the value of family, community and law and order - all of the foundational conservative values being attacked by the left, in particular BLM and the progressive;s cancel culture demagoguery. Giglio makes it very clear that Rhodes stringently avoids being drawn into any arguments that he is racist. Rhodes defects when this comes up. Giglio makes the case that Rhodes is an insurrectionist with a very appealing message and a shit-ton of followers.

                    Giglio on Rhodes and the Oath Keepers:

                    The January 6 movement is not a challenge to authority; it’s a competing version of it. And although it may have failed to overturn the election, it is growing, and perhaps in ways its originators never imagined. One recent poll found that 47 million Americans believe Joe Biden is an illegitimate president and 21 million support the idea of removing him from office by force. Several Republicans in Congress have echoed the language of revolution and political violence, and in a resolution last month, the Republican National Committee deemed the House investigation into what happened on January 6 a “persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse.” Trump has recently signaled that if he runs in 2024, support for the January 6 movement will be central to his campaign, while also floating the idea of pardons for those who’ve been arrested. The Republican Party is replacing or marginalizing officials across the country who resisted Trump’s efforts to invalidate the vote, and Republican legislatures have advanced laws giving themselves more power to throw out ballots and even to appoint their own electors.

                    During my visit in June, I put it to Rhodes that if he’d gotten his wish on January 6, he would have become his own worst fear: not a defender against a tyrannical government, butits agent. The kinds of things he had been asking for — calling up irregular forces, canceling elections and organizing new ones — were things that happened in authoritarian regimes, I said.

                    “Well, that’s what we just had!” he shot back, saying that America was under an authoritarian regime now and had been since the election. “They stole it!”

                    I reminded him of the message from the sangha. What if Trump was lying about the election? What if that was part of the fake?

                    He glanced toward the ceiling, as if he were considering this. Then he looked at me again and smiled. “No,” he said. “You’re not pulling the wool over my eyes, man. I’m sorry. Not happening.”


                    I find the implication of an impending civil war in the US and an ideological conflict - a potential civil war - much more important a debate than the tired rhetoric that Crash advances here and DLS responds to involving "stop the steal." Two smart guys arguing in the weeds failing to see the forest from the trees.
                    Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                    • CIVIL WAR ON STEROIDS!!!
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                      Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                      • Yeah, whatever the likelihood is for civil war, it’s negligible in my book. Laughably irrelevant.
                        Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                        Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                        • But Joe said he could unify the country.

                          Hasn't he done that yet?
                          "in order to lead America you must love America"

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