Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[Dr. Strangelove]

Pre-Dementia Joe, obviously. I figured it was a prominent D.

According to Manchin, getting rid of the filibuster requires a two-thirds vote anyway.

Not sure he's right about that. Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell both changed filibuster rules without having a 2/3 vote.

Oh wait, he's saying to get rid of the filibuster entirely. Then that is correct. But you only need a majority vote (I believe) to make changes to the rules.

[Mike]

Well getting RID of the filibuster is how the left wing wants to pass their "voting rights" bill.

[THE_WIZARD_]

JIM CROW ON STEROIDS!!!!

[Dr. Strangelove]

Well getting RID of the filibuster is how the left wing wants to pass their "voting rights" bill.

No, I believe they want to create a filibuster carveout, like Reid & McConnll did, which would only require 50 votes.

[iam416]

The carve out being for what the Ds want to pass in the immediate future. The, lol...Big Lie-driven "voting rights" bill. The next carve out being whatever the Ds want to next pass. The next carve out being...

Fortunately, this is tilting at windmills shit. But, I gotta give the Ds credit in their brazen shamelessness. Pretty amazing, really.

[Dr. Strangelove]

I'm not saying it's a good idea to do it, I'm just suggesting they can. McConnell has acknowledged as much and promises to raise holy hell if they do it.

Manchin, Sinema, and at least a few quiet others will not do it, however. So it's all spitting into the wind.

[THE_WIZARD_]

Well with Progs the end always justifies the means. Blow up Voting Rights = Race Warefare = More Minority Votes. Disharmony is always justified and in fact encouraged by Progs to get their wanted result.

[THE_WIZARD_]

Protests on the left = Virtuous. Protests on the right = INSURRECTION!!!

[THE_WIZARD_]

AOC and Sotomayor...two of the absolutely DUMBEST fucks to grace the political landscape in our lifetime.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Protests on the left = Virtuous. Protests on the right = INSURRECTION!!!

I just wanna note that Mitch McConnell literally opened his press briefing today by calling Jan. 6 "The Insurrection"...lol

[THE_WIZARD_]

RINO's will be RINO's.

Even Ted Cruz made a reference to terrorism on 1/6.

R terrorism...putting on a Viking hat and yelling. D terrorism...throwing molotov cocktails, torching cities and looting businesses.

[Dr. Strangelove]

I think you should read the article that crashcourse posted. Perhaps look at the video, if it doesn't upset you too much.

This is about a man who clearly, consistently, and provably, advocated for storming the capitol building. Have you seen anyone else who did the same and has not been charged? Have you ever seen someone who was FBI Most Wanted and then just disappeared from the list? Why was he dropped from the list? If we had a functioning news media, they would be all over this story.

Do you believe it's rational to believe that hundreds (or thousands) of people stormed the Capitol because they believed Ray Epps, a total stranger, wanted them to?

There's video of Epps trying to get people to enter the Capitol Building on the night of Jan. 5 too. And no one listened to him. Suddenly he became a highly persuasive speaker the next day!

BTW, the Jan. 6 Committee just released a statement that they talked to this guy months ago.

This conspiracy theory is mostly the brainchild of Darren Beattie, a former Trump speechwriter who got fired after attending a white nationalist yankfest. Beattie previously claimed that a guy named Ronald Loehrke was an FBI informant and provocateur too. But then ol' Ron got arrested and charged, so never mention him again.

Does Tucker Carlson's Jan. 6 documentary hold up under scrutiny? (yahoo.com)

[THE_WIZARD_]

INSURRECTION ON STEROIDS!!!

[Da Geezer]

Do you believe it's rational to believe that hundreds (or thousands) of people stormed the Capitol because they believed Ray Epps, a total stranger, wanted them to?

There's video of Epps trying to get people to enter the Capitol Building on the night of Jan. 5 too. And no one listened to him. Suddenly he became a highly persuasive speaker the next day!

BTW, the Jan. 6 Committee just released a statement that they talked to this guy months ago.

No, it is not rational to believe that thousands of people believed Epps. But it IS rational to believe that the intelligence community had resources on-site at the Jan 6 riot. It is PROVEN that the IC, and particularly the FBI, covered for the Hillary campaign when they started the Russian Hoax. The top leadership of the FBI was trying to get rid of Trump once he took the presidency. Again, that is a fact.

I find it plausible that the FBI encouraged the Jan 6 riot. I also find it plausible that Pelosi left the capitol basically without the extra security that Trump had asked for (twice) and the Metropolitan police had also asked for. Why would she not want the National Guard around?

Now, do you find the Jan 6 Committee's work product to be honest? How can a House committee not allow the minority party to pick its own members on that committee? Remember, Pelosi would only accept two anti-Trump Rs (Cheney and Kinsinger). Once again, evil-party and stupid-party.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Trump did NOT ask for more national guard to guard the Capitol only to have Pelosi block him. This is horseshit that has been peddled in rightwing circles who want to blame everyone BUT Trump for Jan. 6. Trump himself has claimed he ordered 10,000 troops. His word is worth ABSLUTELY NOTHING.

There's not one single corroborating piece of evidence that Trump formally requested the National Guard, let alone 10,000 Guardsmen, guard the Capitol building. The ONLY thing that anyone can point to is that on the night of Jan 5th, in a phone conversation with then-acting Sec of Defense Miller, Trump told him they would need 10,000 troops to guard the Capitol because so many of HIS people were coming. Miller has said that he didn't take that conversation to be an "order". It was a casual conversation. Anyways, formal orders are made IN WRITING and no such thing exists.


Fact check: Trump did not request 10,000 Guard troops for Jan. 6 (usatoday.com)