Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[Mike]

It's 20 fucking 21. The goal should be that every American of legal age vote , even the conservative wingnuts. ;) Registrations should be automatic at age 18 and ballots should be mailed to all registered voters. If they want to send them back fine. If not fine, too. The few instance of Bubba using Granny's ballot are insignificant.

Why in the hell should public money be spent to send every registered voter an absentee ballot they didn’t ask for? That’s insane. At some point people need to take responsibility for their own shit. I’m tired of this idea that the government has to do virtually everything for some people simply because they are too lazy or stupid to do it themselves. Voting is easy. If you choose not to vote, fine. I don’t care. But for anyone who wishes to participate in our elections, there are numerous options to achieve that goal. It’s so stupendously fucking easy that I’m sure my 6 year old could do it.

These voting legislation bills that have the D’s panties in a bunch are basic common sense. Include your DL # or last 4 of your SSN on your absentee ballot application and the ballot you return so it can be easily verified. Hmm. Seems absolutely 100% reasonable. Not to mention early voting days, drop boxes, etc. I’d venture a guess that it has never been easier to vote!

Beto O’Rourke thinks that if that process is implemented in Texas, it will be the end of democracy in the state.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/beto-orourke-this-voting-reform-bill-could-mean-the-end-of-democracy-in-texas/

[iam416]

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[Tom W]

It's 20 fucking 21. The goal should be that every American of legal age vote , even the conservative wingnuts. ;) Registrations should be automatic at age 18 and ballots should be mailed to all registered voters. If they want to send them back fine. If not fine, too. The few instance of Bubba using Granny's ballot are insignificant.

No.

Elections aren't some sort of random lottery where everybody gets a free ticket. The right to vote also carries the responsibility to take it seriously. Register. Inform yourself. Fill out the ballot. Turn it in. You also have a choice to not do any of that. You are under no obligation.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Meanwhile, Chairman Joe continues to do everything he possibly can to undermine the legitimacy of the 2022 and 2024 elections if the D Federal Takeover of state election law is not passed:



The Biggest of Big Lies. Direct from the Chairman.

I would have thought "they're gonna put ya'll back in chains" was irreplaceable as his biggest whopper in your book.

Anyways, the majority of what's being passed in these laws is ok. I can find a few specific things in each one I don't like that I believe has been included to make voting mildly more of a nuisance. As one example, some states seem to be limiting drop boxes to business hours only and must be located at the Board of Elections. That in my mind defeats the entire purpose of a drop box and does nothing to prevent "real" voter fraud.

But overall I'm more worried now about laws that transfer the power of oversight from county officials and Secretaries of State to state legislatures instead, because I have zero confidence they can do a better or more honest job.

[Mike]

I would like my unsolicited absentee ballot already filled out when I receive it so I don’t have to do anything. Then I demand a government worker pick it up from my home. Again I don’t want to be inconvenienced.

[Dr. Strangelove]

I'm not for sending out a ballot to everyone. It's important to distinguish THAT from what actually happened in Michigan and other states. They sent out an APPLICATION for an absentee ballot to everyone.

Here in Ohio I don't think they did that. I DID receive an absentee application, already filled out, from the local Democratic Party. Just needed my signature. I didn't use it and I think the Sec of State said at one point that they were rejecting those. I don't quite remember.

[CGVT]

No.

Elections aren't some sort of random lottery where everybody gets a free ticket.

Uh... Yes they are.

[CGVT]

But overall I'm more worried now about laws that transfer the power of oversight from county officials and Secretaries of State to state legislatures instead, because I have zero confidence they can do a better or more honest job.

Exactly

[iam416]

I would have thought "they're gonna put ya'll back in chains" was irreplaceable as his biggest whopper in your book.

I just can't get over the consistent, persistent preposterous rhetoric coming from the POTUS and his party. It's stunning. if this were DJT blathering, then, yeah, sure -- I could easily imagine that. But here we are.

I guess the upside is that Chairman Joe's willingess to brazenly demagogue and lie is still relatively limited in scope -- as opposed to his predecessor. But his rhetoric on voting laws is fucking disgraceful, not to mention fundamentally illiterate when it comes to American history.

I don't have a single problem with the argument you just made. I don't share your concerns and certainly disagree with the idea of federalizing local election laws. But you're at least making a reasonable fact-based argument.

[iam416]

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[CGVT]

It should be easier

[Tom W]

Why?

Either you're excusing irresponsibility or you want to make it easier to cheat..

[CGVT]

Neither.

You might have a valid point about cheating if there was even an iota of credible evidence that cheating on a measurable scale occurs.

Voting is the right of every American citizen. Why should it not be a simpler process?

What are you afraid of?

[THE_WIZARD_]

You all want this shit to stop?

Get your stupid ass vaccinated.

Jesus

Worry about your own fucking health and I'll worry about mine Comrade Fucktard.

[THE_WIZARD_]

EFZ. It's OVER. Right now all we're doing is watching Darwinism at play. You don't want to get vaccinated, no problem. You want to take that 0.005% risk (depending on age), no problem.

To wit -- as DSL points out:


It's OVER. If you're vaccinated you ain't got a fucking care in the world. If you're unvaccinated and under 50, you run that 1 in 1000 risk of dying. O.V.E.R.

ED FUCKING ZACHARY