Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[Mike]

Cuomo choosing to be defiant. Casting himself as a victim of 'cancel culture'. Says the Dem politicians ganging up on him don't like him because he's not part of their "club".

lol, this dude was in Clinton's Cabinet, has been a power in NY state since 2007, is the son of a man who was Governor 12 years, and married into the Kennedy family...but yeah, he's not in the "club".

What’s this guy gotta do to catch a break?!

[lineygoblue]

Cuomo choosing to be defiant. Casting himself as a victim of 'cancel culture'. Says the Dem politicians ganging up on him don't like him because he's not part of their "club".

lol, this dude was in Clinton's Cabinet, has been a power in NY state since 2007, is the son of a man who was Governor 12 years, and married into the Kennedy family...but yeah, he's not in the "club".

The "cancel culture" is firmly controlled by liberals and the Democratic Party. They, and they alone determine who gets cancelled and who doesn't. Don't cry about it Guv. These are your people. These are the people that you chuckle and snicker with when you demonize your enemies. Now its come home to roost. Deal with it.

[Tom W]

The new monetary theory posits that they do not need to be paid for. It negates the whole idea that spending on anything requires "paying for" the spending. It says only that we spend and spend and then when inflation or hyper-inflation is a threat, we tax the crap out of people in order to lower the money supply. Progs have always wanted to separate spending from "who is paying for this?". That is why all the spending bills recently have been omnibus.

I don't want to pay for some nitwit's college debt he used to get his degree in black studies. He should pay as he promised to pay. Better yet, the college that granted the worthless degree should be forced to "co-sign" the debt and to pay for failing to deliver value. Can you imagine the difference in counseling a degree path when the college has some potential liability for granting a worthless degree?

Good points, and it does really come down to whether or not people choose this new monetary theory over simple, common, sense. IMHO, the progs aren't as smart as they think they are, underestimate their opposition and that, if left to their own devices, will eventually overplay their hand. The "Mostly Peaceful Demonstrations" of last summer probably did just that - and they're completely oblivious about it.

[iam416]

The Ds can go after Cuomo because (a) PDJT is no longer in office; and (b) there's no risk in terms of power -- they control everything in NY -- they just replace him with a true blue Prog.

But, make no mistake, this shit wouldn't be coming out if it were October 2020. What Cuomo (and Whitmer) did wrt to Covid and nursing homes is an absolute and total failure of leadership that surpasses anything PDJT did re Covid. And they got a free pass. And DeSantis was the whipping boy.

[Tom W]

But, make no mistake, this shit wouldn't be coming out if it were October 2020. What Cuomo (and Whitmer) did wrt to Covid and nursing homes is an absolute and total failure of leadership that surpasses anything PDJT did re Covid. And they got a free pass. And DeSantis was the whipping boy.

Or so it looks right now. But, that's why you keep giving them more rope. There's still a lot of unanswered questions and the future doesn't look so bright for Cuomo, or Whitmer. Yes, she's immune form sexual harassment accusations and has Detroit, but she's a one-whip dominatrix. She really needed COVID to be WORSE than it actually was for her to maintain credibility. .

[Jeff Buchanan]

I'm not sure Modern Monetary Theory doesn't have real costs. While it is correct to argue that government can print money or increase the money supply by taking on more debt without having to "pay that back" in the traditional sense of the word, the cost is inflation that lessens the value of the dollar (the fiat currency). It is also correct to argue that the way to pay-back profligate fiscal and monetary policy based on MMT theory is to tax the shit out of everything. This is where Tom's point that sensible people will react in ways to this clarity that will stop it.

At that point, you are left with a pile of expensive debt, inflation and high interest rates. The inevitable default position is to reduce spending - the same kind of calculus that ultimately results from the application of any of the multiple economic theories out there. It's worth pointing out that I don't think Powell is pursuing a purely MMT based monetary policy. These are unique times that call for a shit-load of spending.

[lineygoblue]

Or so it looks right now. But, that's why you keep giving them more rope. There's still a lot of unanswered questions and the future doesn't look so bright for Cuomo, or Whitmer. Yes, she's immune form sexual harassment accusations and has Detroit, but she's a one-whip dominatrix. She really needed COVID to be WORSE than it actually was for her to maintain credibility. .

This is completely true. Whitmer is getting a free pass on the Covid response, because for now, it appears that a lot of her early decisions worked out. BUT, her decision to put Covid patients in nursing homes hasn't been fully addressed yet. That is still to come.

Without the Covid pandemic, Whitmer would be teetering on the edge like Newsome. Her biggest claim to fame up to that point was her demand for a 170% gas tax increase. She couldn't find even one legislator from her own party to carry that proposal to the floor. Once Covid is under control here, she's in trouble. She'll always have Detroit in her pocket, but the outstate has rose up before, and ousted "popular" Democrats. It can happen again.

I just wish the outstate would wake up and throw out Stupidnow and Peters.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Cuomo’s actual failure on nursing homes, and I have said this before, is the coverup. Cuomo and the other northeastern Governors deserve at least something of a pass on making mistakes handling covid. NY got hit harder and earlier than nearly anywhere else. And no one knew how to treat it, how bad it really was, how soon a vaccine would come, and so on. And they weren’t getting a ton of good advice out of DC.

DeSantis, Ducey, Abbot, Kemp and the other governors who didn’t have much to worry about until June had the advantage of learning from others’ mistakes.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Oh but I will agree that Cuomo should be taking more heat for the handling of covid than the sexual harassment stuff (not that that’s nothing).

Schumer and Gillebrand have now joined the chorus saying he needs to go

[lineygoblue]

Does he last thru the weekend?

[Tom W]

Cuomo deserves “something of a pass”?

JFC, that’s hysterical.

[Jeff Buchanan]

DeSantis, Ducey, Abbot, Kemp and the other governors who didn’t have much to worry about until June had the advantage of learning from others’ mistakes.

No, just no.

I can't speak for Abbot and Ducey but as far as Kemp and Desantis are concerned, both of them took the lead when it came to rejecting the non-sense of shuttering businesses. Kemp was less aggressive with public health policy but Desantis led the nation in actually protecting the vulnerable and recognizing that the COVID risk was in the over 70 population and the rest could pretty much carry on as usual. He was pilloried by liberal D's for that take. The WSJ article last week titled "Vindication for Desantis," laid out exactly why.

Why R governors should get props for their state's rejection of the shit dripping off Fauci's and the Redfiled's (CDC) lips isn't just about fucking up nursing homes. It's about this particular group of governors recognizing the actual COVID threat, targeting vulnerable populations and protecting them while keeping businesses from collapsing. They didn't learn from the mistakes of Cuomo, Newsome and Whitmer's ilk, they just said fuck off you idiots and they were absolutely right in doing so and leading the way in the process.

[iam416]

Absolutely correct.

[AlabamAlum]

No, he deserves zero pass for the nursing home stuff. Everyone with a brain was screaming that it was a bad move.

And, I’m with Tom. The “something of a pass stuff” because he didn’t know how to treat it is pretty funny considering that the Democrats won an election because Trump didn’t know how to treat it at the same time.

[iam416]

Absolutely correct.

Now, I'm ok if folks want to say it's not fair to compare death totals from early states to later states. Again, The Media didn't really care about that when going after PDJT. But, there's some sense to it. But that still, in no way, excuses forcing nursing homes to take Covid patients. Cuomo AND Whitmer have, to borrow the Prog rallying cry, blood on their hands.