Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[lineygoblue]

That's the first correct meme you've posted here CGVT.

Leftists have a whole slew of "fixing" to do over the next few years, mixed in with a little revenge.

Good times for you. Not so good for the rest of us.

[THE_WIZARD_]

Overall death rates in the US are still lower than pre-covid...and oddly flu numbers are down...and survival rates of Covid are still very high...

[CGVT]

Overall death rates in the US are still lower than pre-covid

That is not true

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

[Jeff Buchanan]

That is not true

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm

First, that's a link to Excess Deaths in the US due to COVID which is not the same as the over-all US death rate. The death rate in the US is believed to be 8.8% or 8.8% of the US population will die in 2020. It was 8.789% in 2019. Growth rates in both years were 1.2%. These values do not reflect deaths attributed to COVID-19 and there is a good reason for that. Global reporting of overall deaths and COVID deaths vary widely. https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...tes/death-rate.

There's no question that COVID has produced excess deaths above that of relatively stable 8.8% death rate. Pandemics will do that. So will getting fat from shitty diets increase death rates and the increaseing global death rate is a direct result of that and increasing poverty and strife.

Excess deaths from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic were much higher than the current COVID pandemic with CFR for the Spanish Flu believed to be in the 3.4% range globally while for COVID it is in the 2% range. There a lots of confounding factors in these kinds of analysis/comparisons - one is that mortality was generally higher in 1918 than it is in 2020. Age stratification, if it is accounted for, changes the numbers substantially.

So, let's be clear. It's important to be comparing apples to apples when making assertions about COVID impact and the best way to do that is to measure CFR for the two pandemics. Bringing in other factors clouds the question properly asked: Are more people dying in 2020 than 2019? The answer is yes but not by very much and fundamentally death rates have been upward trending since 2013 due to casues that have nothing to do with COVID.

If one asserts that death rates in the US in 2020 are lower than they were in 2019, I can find ways to do that. I can also find ways to demonstrate it is higher in 2020. The bottom line is that it is a futile exercise when one tries to assess the impact of COVID-19. Of course there are excess deaths due to that. To what degree and in comparison to other causes of death both currently and retrospectively, C-19 is less lethal than recent pandemics/epidemics, less lethal then the 1918 Spanish Flu, is less lethal that heart disease or cancer ...... I think that's what Wiz's point is.

[THE_WIZARD_]

I had a point?

Cool.

[AlabamAlum]

It was on the top of your head.

[THE_WIZARD_]

That's why I wear a hat...so nobody sees it...

[AlabamAlum]

I like the way you work it
No diggity, I got to bag it up, bag it up
I like the way you work it
No diggity, I got to bag it up, bag it up, girl
I like the way you work it
No diggity, I got to bag it up, bag it up
I like the way you work it
No diggity, I got to bag it up, get up

[THE_WIZARD_]

" ...we had joy we had fun we had seasons in the sun..."

[AlabamAlum]

Strumming my pain with his fingers
Singing my life with his words
Killing me softly with his song
Killing me softly with his song…

[THE_WIZARD_]

...you've really gayed this thread up mister...

"...tellin' me lies, tellin' me lies,

...tellin' me lies...no alibis..."

[AlabamAlum]

Top dollar with the gold flea collar
Dippin' in my blue Impala
Top dollar with the gold flea collar
Dippin' in my blue Impala

[THE_WIZARD_]

That was beyond gay...even from a Gay Bear worshipper...

[AlabamAlum]

You dis Dre and Snoop, you get the AK.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Jason Lewis, the Republican candidate running for Senate in Minnesota, has been taken into emergency surgery for a severe internal hernia.