Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[hack]

An airline pilot is one of the things I'd have no problem paying a little bit more for. Seems a very good place to apply the concept that you get what you pay for.

I agree about the mystique factor. Sometimes you see those guys inline at the airport Subway just like you are. No lounge for them.

[hack]

As for the debate about instinct vs process, well, there clearly aren't enough pilots to go around let alone naturally talented people who could be relied on to perform admirably under pressure thanks to a combination of skills. The industry has the safety record to point to in saying it's made the right decision overall.

[crashcourse]

no big surprise that the DOJ under lynch cockblocked any attempt by the fbi investigating Hillary. that a separate set of standards for the rest of the world exists. that the insurance policy was framing trump for russian collusion

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/lisa-page-said-fbi-discussed-charging-hillary-clinton-with-gross-negligence-in-2016-and-doj-told-them-no

lot more coming down the turnpike--see what barr does with it

[Dr. Strangelove]

Not sure if anyone mentioned it yesterday, but pretty much every significant country on earth has grounded the 737 now. Except the US. But Boeing is taking a mighty hit from this no matter what the US ends up doing.

That said, there are reports swirling around now that the FAA has gotten at least 5 complaints from US pilots in recent months regarding the 737, all occurring during 'critical' moments of flight.

[hack]

I mean, if there's any regulatory function we ought not politicize...

[hack]

And, if anyone here actually works for the FAA, my advice is that this is not the right week to quit sniffing glue.

[Jeff Buchanan]

One other thing on current pilot pay and training ....... the equipment being flown in the 70s and 80s was way different than it is today. Cockpits were analog and you had to "fly" the plane more than hit auto function and sit back and monitor. The majority of new hire pilots came out of the military. That is no longer true. While some military pilots transition to the commercial flying world, it is a huge step down in pay and prestige. Most military pilots that can stay on active duty, do so. That wasn't the case in the 70s where the military was paying pilots huge bonuses to not leave for the commercial world. I was among those that got a bonus to stay.

With different equipment, the training is different. The commercial world flight training is heavily simulator based. To get my 737 Type rating - a requirement to apply to Southwest Airlines - I went to a company that doesn't do anything but train 737 pilots in sims. I flew 12 simulator flights and then hoped in the left seat of a live 737 with an American Airlines check pilot flying in the right and took off from SEATAC (Seattle Tacoma International Airport), at night, did 3 approaches at an outlying field, one of them a single engine approach and then back to SEATAC. It was the first time and last I flew the actual aircraft. Crazy.

So, the sim based training approach persists in the commercial world. It has it's limitations but with the new equipment coming on line where stick and throttle stuff is highly automated, it's not only effective in training to the necessary skills to fly these automated birds, it is also cost effective.

[AlabamAlum]

He does go on other networks so I'd be interested if it's been brought up on MSNBC.

And he did help craft a plea deal that has been ruled illegal by a judge, though I don't know if that really implicates the defense team at all. Possibly just the prosecutors.

I am sure he stipulates what he is asked about before hand.

It was ruled illegal because the victims weren't consulted. I would assume the onus of talking to victims before a plea deal falls on the prosecutors, not the defense team. If it is the defense team's responsibility to talk to victims, that's a pants-on-head stupid requirement.

[froot loops]

I want to know the context of the complaints about the 737. Is that number of complaints unusual or is it part of the normal process of data gathering? It would be interesting to know if it fielded similar amount of complaints about other models or is five a big number.

This is starting to have shades of the Toyota unintended acceleration issue. That one was never really settled to the point where they could pinpoint the exact cause. There were 4 main possible culprits identified at the time: bad code, floor mats, sticky gas pedals and driver error. Toyota settled their case but it could have been driver error.

The main point is these cases blow up in the media, people make instantaneous reactions on the root cause but investigations take time and an answer may never be found.

[hack]

Well, an answer that becomes public knowledge at least.

I really don't know. The FAA isn't the only regulatory body getting political pressure right now. Far-weaker regulators in countries in which the financial damage to individual airlines will be far greater have managed to ground this plane. In lieu of actually knowing, that for me is a powerful indicator of how concerned people should be. Thousands of flights are going to be take off and land safely today, still. But the grounds for concern are firmer than yesterday.

Gonna be very intrestling politically if the notion of the shutdown delaying a fix is a solid one and not just partisan banging.

Would also be interesting to know what a standard airliner-lease agreement says about this, and where those lease terms are enforced. Airlines suiing their way out of leases on hundreds of planes would be quite the thing.

[froot loops]

Here is the expose the Herald published in December. It gets into the whole case. It has the accusations of Dershowitz having sex with underage girls. It also stars Kenneth Starr. In regards to the victims not being notified, here is a snippet of it:








Do read the whole thing.

[Jeff Buchanan]

Not sure if anyone mentioned it yesterday, but pretty much every significant country on earth has grounded the 737 now. Except the US. But Boeing is taking a mighty hit from this no matter what the US ends up doing.

That said, there are reports swirling around now that the FAA has gotten at least 5 complaints from US pilots in recent months regarding the 737, all occurring during 'critical' moments of flight.

Here's the thing. I believe you are implying that all 737 Max 8s/9s ought to be grounded, right?

Are these aircraft unsafe? I don't know ....... an auto-pilot system that can be easily disengaged if it malfunctions should not be a cause for grounding an otherwise perfectly airworthy aircraft. The FAA along with the Transportation Safety Agency (TSA) have said they have no grounds upon which to identify the 737 as not airworthy. Neither does the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA)

The EASA is the European counterpart to the FAA and both agencies have agreements to cooperate in air safety matters. The EASA announced yesterday that it has grounded the 737s out of an abundance of caution. They made no declarations that the aircraft isn't airworthy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ng-737-max-jet

I'd offer that if the FAA and other aviation regulatory agencies world wide, once they determine that the Etheopean crash, like the LionAir crash was an auto-pilot related mishap - and that should be pretty clear in evaluating the black boxes - want to focus on something worthwhile re the 737s, it would be pilot training. Hey, know where it is and don't hesitate to use the on/off switch!

Until then, wind your wrist watch. I fully support the FAA's position on this. If Countries don't want the 737 in their airspace it's their call as stupid as I think that call is. BTW, the 737 does not routinely fly Transatlantic although some carriers both European and Canadian have either introduced those routes on a limited basis or are working on them. That's going to be on hold. I also expect this whole regulatory kerfuffle to be fully resolved in a mater of days, not weeks. I highly doubt the restrictions levied by other regulatory agencies world wide on the 737s will last long.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Jeff- The worrisome thing for me is that I have low confidence that Trump wlll not meddle in the FAA's decision. And that he will ultimately make the call based on how much he likes/dislikes Boeing's President and not anything rooted in facts. He could pressure the FAA to ground them baselessly, he could pressure them to keep them in the skies and ignore genuine concerns. No matter which way it goes the WH can't really deny Trump stayed out of it anymore.

[THE_WIZARD_]

...or better yet...you could shut the fuck up and make us all happier...

[Da Geezer]

Here is the expose the Herald published in December. It gets into the whole case. It has the accusations of Dershowitz having sex with underage girls. It also stars Kenneth Starr. In regards to the victims not being notified, here is a snippet of it:








Do read the whole thing.

Well, froot, as I am likely to do, I read the whole article. You posted: "Here is the expose the Herald published in December. It gets into the whole case. It has the accusations of Dershowitz having sex with underage girls. It also stars Kenneth Starr. In regards to the victims not being notified, here is a snippet of it:"

Could you cut and paste the part of the article that has the accusations against Dershowitz? I couldn't find it.

As part of your continuing education, let me tell you about what has been called "The Star Chamber". These were courts that originated under Henry VII and were extensively used under Henry VIII. They were courts of great efficiency. Unfortunately, they started with the presumption of guilt and the accused had a right to prove his innocence. What is notable is that anyone who helped in the accused defense, particularly lawyers, was also charged with the same crime as the accused.

Now you and your progressive statists arguing that if Dershowitz or Ken Star, act as defense counsel for Epstein, they are suddenly "involved" in Epstein's crime. This is the nature of socialist crime and punishment. If an attorney represents an accused, then the attorney automatically becomes an accessory after the fact in the commission of the crime.

The actual fact is that there is ample evidence that Epstein was a major sexual predator and should have been given far more in terms of punishment than he was given. No one condones that. But, absent any evidence at all, accusing someone BECAUSE they are helping an accused is totalitarianism.

Did you read the article, froot? Or did you repost something that came from one of your progressive web sites?